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mokryna Sun 20-Dec-20 21:44:15

Things are getting serious as France is because of covid is blocking lorry movements.

lemongrove Tue 22-Dec-20 16:47:05

GrannyGravy13

This mess is Macrons mess, he has closed the French borders.

It is being reported on Twitter that the EU has ordered the borders to be reopened, not sure how true that is.

Yup, Macron’s mess alright.Hope the French lorry drivers sleeping for days in their cabs realise it’s not the UK stopping them leaving!
Sprouts and many veg are grown in England, we are not all going to get scurvy either if we can’t get hold of a Spanish citrus fruit for a week.
Doom mongering is social media’s favourite occupation.....’it’s being so cheerful as keeps them going’ as my late MIL used to say.

Blossoming Tue 22-Dec-20 16:49:27

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/uk-travel-ban-europe-eu-restrictions-b1777601.html

Galaxy Tue 22-Dec-20 16:51:57

Crikey you have depressed me even more now lemongrove, sprouts and no oranges.

lemongrove Tue 22-Dec-20 16:56:02

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lemongrove Tue 22-Dec-20 16:56:31

Oranges are not the only fruit!?

Whitewavemark2 Tue 22-Dec-20 17:08:19

lemongrove

GrannyGravy13

This mess is Macrons mess, he has closed the French borders.

It is being reported on Twitter that the EU has ordered the borders to be reopened, not sure how true that is.

Yup, Macron’s mess alright.Hope the French lorry drivers sleeping for days in their cabs realise it’s not the UK stopping them leaving!
Sprouts and many veg are grown in England, we are not all going to get scurvy either if we can’t get hold of a Spanish citrus fruit for a week.
Doom mongering is social media’s favourite occupation.....’it’s being so cheerful as keeps them going’ as my late MIL used to say.

Macron, it could be argued is exercising a form of tier 4 lockdown, to try and prevent the new variant from entering France. It is entirely within his prerogative and as I have previously said he is exercising French sovereignty.

Nezumi65 Tue 22-Dec-20 17:41:38

The European Commission has said they want to see freight flowing again as soon as possible and the borders to open to allow freight. They cannot order anything because each country can make its own decisions about its borders (who knew?)

GrannyGravy13 Tue 22-Dec-20 17:45:19

Macron is doing absolutely nothing to repatriate French Citizens, he has caused the chaos he should take responsibility for it!

Whitewavemark2 Tue 22-Dec-20 17:54:00

GrannyGravy13

Macron is doing absolutely nothing to repatriate French Citizens, he has caused the chaos he should take responsibility for it!

He has - it’s called. Sovereignty

growstuff Tue 22-Dec-20 17:56:00

GrannyGravy13

Macron is doing absolutely nothing to repatriate French Citizens, he has caused the chaos he should take responsibility for it!

No, he hasn't caused the chaos, especially not in Harwich or Holyhead.

growstuff Tue 22-Dec-20 18:02:02

Anyway, Macron is allowing French nationals to re-enter the country after a negative test.

Just announced:

"France is expected to reopen its border with the UK but only to its own nationals, French residents and professionals such as truck drivers, all of whom will have to provide a recent negative test, France’s public broadcaster has reported."

Sounds like a responsible leader. I'm sure you would agree GrannyGravy.

LauraNorder Tue 22-Dec-20 18:03:58

Macron has not caused the chaos at Harwich or Holyhead but the other European Union countries have refused entry to their own nationals. The UK are not holding them hostage. The countries causing this chaos must take responsibility. This chaos is EU made. They could allow their own nationals to come home and self isolate as we have done with our own.

Whitewavemark2 Tue 22-Dec-20 18:06:43

The chap in charge of Calais port was interviewed this morning. He advised the interviewer that Calais staff had been training for 2 years and all the necessary infrastructure was in place together with the software etc.

We have yet to recruit and train all the staff, complete the infrastructure and obtain software fit for purpose.

We have yet to complete any of it.

And we accuse France of causing chaos!!

LauraNorder Tue 22-Dec-20 18:07:17

Freight now moving from Holyhead to the Republic of Ireland but not cars.

LauraNorder Tue 22-Dec-20 18:08:42

We accuse France of causing chaos because they closed the borders with no notice. Causing chaos

Whitewavemark2 Tue 22-Dec-20 18:08:45

Astoundingly the brexiters continue to blame everyone except the government’s severe shortcomings

rosie1959 Tue 22-Dec-20 18:10:12

Macrons an idiot why leave EU drivers stranded here Just get them tested when they return to their depots

growstuff Tue 22-Dec-20 18:11:55

LauraNorder

Macron has not caused the chaos at Harwich or Holyhead but the other European Union countries have refused entry to their own nationals. The UK are not holding them hostage. The countries causing this chaos must take responsibility. This chaos is EU made. They could allow their own nationals to come home and self isolate as we have done with our own.

This chaos is "Made in the UK".

growstuff Tue 22-Dec-20 18:13:07

rosie1959

Macrons an idiot why leave EU drivers stranded here Just get them tested when they return to their depots

What about Irish and Dutch leaders? Are they idiots too?

Who would have thought protecting your own borders was idiotic?

GrannyGravy13 Tue 22-Dec-20 18:13:16

Whitewavemark2

Astoundingly the brexiters continue to blame everyone except the government’s severe shortcomings

So how are the UK Government responsible for the French Border Closures, please enlighten us?

Pleased that France is allowing its citizens to return.

growstuff Tue 22-Dec-20 18:13:36

LauraNorder

We accuse France of causing chaos because they closed the borders with no notice. Causing chaos

What about Eire and Holland?

LauraNorder Tue 22-Dec-20 18:16:25

I was answering WW 18.06

Whitewavemark2 Tue 22-Dec-20 18:16:25

The Sikh community has clubbed together to provide hot food to the lorry drivers.

Well done!

Whitewavemark2 Tue 22-Dec-20 18:17:07

LauraNorder

I was answering WW 18.06

Please read growstuffs post 18.13

GrannyGravy13 Tue 22-Dec-20 18:18:03

Those administrations that closed the borders whoever they are, are responsible for the chaos, the UK has not closed its borders maybe we should.

Just wait for the demands for them to be reopened from posters here and member States of the EU.