Coronavirus Christmas - oops I may have seriously upset SiL!

Taliya

I think that's quite cruel of ypou. People living alone have really suffered during this Pandemic and being sociable and having social contact is more important in my book but that's just my opinion because I disagree with a lot of what this government has done .

Not cruel - sensible. It was the only thing to do in the face of this woman's irresponsible behaviour. And how damn patronising of her to remark that you're a poor vulnerable old lady and entitled to my bubble's'!

Taliya

I think that's quite cruel of ypou. People living alone have really suffered during this Pandemic and being sociable and having social contact is more important in my book but that's just my opinion because I disagree with a lot of what this government has done .

Read OP again, Taliya - the SIL is still working so presumably has plenty of “social contact” in the working week.
Save your sympathy for people in their 70’s, 80’s or 90’s living alone or with a disabled or ill partner, whose families live too far away for doorstep visits or who may be at risk because of their age and health issues.

I bet she got so stuffed with mince pies that she didn't miss lunch anyway. You did absolutely the right thing. I would insist that she isolates for fourteen days now before attempting to see you. The newspapers are full of warnings this morning.

Well done for having the (balls) courage to tell her straight - I admire you! I know someone who seems to think it’s ok to “mix” with all and sundry - except me, that is, no way! If more people were sensible and careful like you then the country might not be in such a bad way. Goodness knows what will happen after New Year’s Eve when all the idiots think it’s ok to socialise! Stick to your principles and if she doesn’t like it, tough!

Hetty. Please don’t be upset you are very sensibly taking care not only of yourself, but of others round you. Hopefully the vaccine will ultimately allow us some more freedom, but until then, stay safe.

You were quite right ! She is obviously a very silly selfish lady .

Daftbag, it is not your fault that this lady is stupid. Let's hope the penny will drop into her learning mechanism before too long.

You were right to do as you did. Your SIL is nits.

You did the right thing so don’t feel bad .
You should feel proud of yourself well done xx

....or even nuts.....!

I'm really fed up with people not thinking it applies to them I'm afraid you had to do what you did for all of us. I have just done the same ...a friend and neighbour (we have been in tier 3 (Leeds) for ages) was just tellin me how his partner had contracted covid in London. I asked quite firmly what was she doing in London (I knew she was visiting grandchildren and daughter...I didn't mean that) she shouldn't be there. He riposted that she went down the day before lockdown rules had changed..so I have just told him that was impossible because we weren't allowed to travel outside our area then...(when Leeds was 3 and London was 2) they just make it up and do as they please and now she will come back when she wants probably bringing the variant with her. grrrrr. probably lost his friendship too but as I said fed up with it.

Taliya

I think that's quite cruel of ypou. People living alone have really suffered during this Pandemic and being sociable and having social contact is more important in my book but that's just my opinion because I disagree with a lot of what this government has done .

Not cruel at all - just being very sensible. I miss social contact but could not live with myself if it meant I had caused the death of a loved one or even ruined their long term health.

'Your SIL is nits.'

Veryappropriate typo! They spread like wildfire due to close contact!

Good for you! You did absolutely the right thing and it's such a shame that more people don't do exactly the same! Many of my neighbours are having "the world and his wife" calling in and NOT remaining on the doorstep! Even our immediate neighbour thinks it's ok for my OH to go visit him because he's on his own and his family don't give a s**t, I told my OH in no uncertain terms "if you go, take your stuff because you ain't coming back in here"! OH does get "the rules" but as we are both medics finds it hard to clock off sometimes! The immediate neighbour is rather "poor me, poor me" I'm afraid, I just politely remind him that there's thousand in the same position and he can always pick up the phone and call his family and friends!

We are currently in Tier 3 and I've just spent most of the last 2 months with repeated hospitalisation, despite the family having been in self-isolation - DS has seen his GF about 5 times last year. DH, DS and MIL finally got it and MIL (89 next week and with other health issues) is currently seriously ill in hospital. Although I've tried so hard to be careful, I suspect that it's all my fault. But what really made me hopping mad was Boris J, in London deciding to visit Bolton (Tier 3). Surely he should have stayed in his Tier 1 home and self-isolated or do the rules not apply to him?

Daftbag1 well done for sticking to the rules and your principles. You were her bubble but oh no that wasn’t enough for her. She had to go hobnobbing with several households putting herself and all those she visited at risk. You’ve had the good sense not to be one of those. Several doctors advised none of us should meet at Christmas at all despite the regulations that we could. Now we reap the whirlwind.

You were absolutely right. An acquaintance of mine got in a car on Christmas Day to go out for lunch. In the car were his ex-wife, her partner, his daughter and fiancé. They have now all tested positive and he is becoming really poorly.

oh gosh, Daftbag, you did right, please try not to feel guilty,
I can`t believe Taliya meant what she said.

nothing cruel, whatsover,, at least if people don`t want to abide by the rules, at least try not to "infect" others..

so sad.

I can see why u didn't want her there as she's seeing multiple people.
However, I'm pretty sure that lockdown aren't working as figures are rising everywhere. Logically to survive lots of people have to go to work ie for us to have gas electric water sewage roadworks banks deliveries etc. Also schools colleges restaurants are open. Add those who are mixing with many people and breaking the rules and there's no way tiers can work to lower infection rates. I feel this virus will just run it's course. Vaccines will help but that will take a long time.

You did absolutely the right thing - well done, it can't have been easy. I hope these posts push your feelings of guilt right out of your mind.
I am really angry about all the people who are either pushing the rules as far as they can or ignoring them completely and doing just as they like. This virus is essentially spread by careless human behavior. The last 'lockdown' can hardly be called that seeing all the people behaving totally selfishly and irresponsibly and we are now in a very serious situation as a country. I applaud you for taking a stand.

09:45Taliya

"I think that's quite cruel of ypou. People living alone have really suffered during this Pandemic and being sociable and having social contact is more important in my book but that's just my opinion because I disagree with a lot of what this government has done ."

What a selfish irissponsible person you are. You may disagree with the government rules of living safely but they are there to protect everyone else, not just you. If you want to ignore them fine, go and do it on an isolated island with no other humans present for you to put at risk. Everyone has suffered during this pandemic not just single people and living alone is better than not living at all until we come through this dire situation. Try thinking about the rest of us not just yourself.

You did the right thing end of.
And don`t feel bad about it either,it`s because of people like her covid is spreading like wild fire.

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

It was not cruel of her. It was sensible. It sounds like this "vulnerable, lonely" woman has plenty of other contacts. Nothing justifies her selfish behaviour

Taliya

I think that's quite cruel of ypou. People living alone have really suffered during this Pandemic and being sociable and having social contact is more important in my book but that's just my opinion because I disagree with a lot of what this government has done .

It would be more cruel to allow people to become infected and how would she feel to have it on her conscience that she'd spread covid around? She's lucky to have family to bubble with and she can always talk to others on the phone or outside at a social distance. As a retired nurse I feel that we have a responsibility to protect others and care for the exhausted medical and nursing staff on the front line.