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Is the new corvid variant actually American?

(73 Posts)
GagaJo Fri 01-Jan-21 09:16:22

New coronavirus variant may have been in US since October.

A coronavirus variant carrying some of the same mutations as the highly contagious British variant may have been in the US since October and already be widespread, a re-analysis of more than 2m tests suggests.

Genome sequencing to confirm whether the variant observed in Americans is the same as the so-called B117 variant currently circulating in the UK is under way.

uk.yahoo.com/news/now-coronavirus-variant-may-us-070003733.html

GagaJo Fri 01-Jan-21 21:38:13

Really? We thought the US was nuts for electing Trump.

Iam64 Fri 01-Jan-21 21:38:54

they think the U.K. is nuts
How often do people tell us what they suspect we want to hear?
I’m not thrilled with Brexit, or our government. It doesn’t leave me dismissing my country as nuts

Callistemon Fri 01-Jan-21 21:42:46

We were accused of being xenophobic if we criticised Switzerland or the Swiss at all, so I presume that the obverse must apply.

GagaJo Fri 01-Jan-21 23:21:43

I really wish there was an eye roll emoji.

Yes, I suppose non Brits (I work with French, Spanish, Mexican, Serbian, Hungarian, Albanian, Equadorian, Chinese, Canadian and yes, Swiss) can assume that Brits working overseas were pro EU. But I think it is a fair statement that anyone other than maybe Americans think we were wrong. And don't mind expressing that opinion. One which I am NOT offended by. Because, yes, I share it.

lemongrove Fri 01-Jan-21 23:30:00

Witzend

I imagine that if it’s mutated naturally here, it will have done the same elsewhere.
Though I dare say there will always be those who find it convenient to blame another country.

Very true!

Summerlove Sat 02-Jan-21 00:18:34

I really wish there was an eye roll emoji.
???

MawBe Sat 02-Jan-21 00:28:09

GagaJo

*'it is a particularly noxious form of stirring to tell anybody that a third party is badmouthing them.'* There is no third party. I am responding to your question (direct address, two participants only), 'But you brought it to our attention - why?'

Don't ask a question if you don't want an answer.

You (first party); tell me (second party); that Jemima over there (aka Switzerland or from what you say everybody) (third party) doesn’t like me/thinks I am nuts.
Simple arithmetic.
Stirring up animosity between two parties.
And I didn’t get an answer, just told that if I didn’t like it I should go elsewhere .

Lucretzia Sat 02-Jan-21 00:31:31

Callistemon

We were accused of being xenophobic if we criticised Switzerland or the Swiss at all, so I presume that the obverse must apply.

Boom, Callistemon!

You're spot on there

MawBe Sat 02-Jan-21 00:34:15

I wonder if it might have something to do with altitude and “moral high ground” ? ? ?

MawBe Sat 02-Jan-21 04:43:22

It is important not to confuse the two.

Callistemon Sat 02-Jan-21 10:05:09

Yes, I suppose non Brits (I work with French, Spanish, Mexican, Serbian, Hungarian, Albanian, Equadorian, Chinese, Canadian and yes, Swiss) can assume that Brits working overseas were pro EU.

I'm confused now - is this thread about the new-variant COVID or the EU?

Goodness, there's little old me, so insular, never met anyone who isn't Welsh.

GagaJo Sat 02-Jan-21 10:07:21

Ok Callistemon, I'll ignore your comments in future, given that this was a direct response to your off topic comment.

Moving along...

GagaJo Sat 02-Jan-21 10:09:03

Careful you don't move into bullying 'ladies'. GNHQ won't approve and I am not intimidated.

MawBe Sat 02-Jan-21 10:21:08

Yes, I suppose non Brits (I work with French, Spanish, Mexican, Serbian, Hungarian, Albanian, Equadorian, Chinese, Canadian and yes, Swiss) can assume that Brits working overseas were pro EU

Talking of the EU and/or Brexit, which we weren’t .........

Callistemon Sat 02-Jan-21 10:22:13

It's not bullying in the slightest.
(I have a feeling of déjà vu)

It's just bemusement that the thread has changed from being about Covid to Brexit and an assumption that anyone who is not working/living overseas is insular, inward-looking and nuts.

Callistemon Sat 02-Jan-21 10:23:00

I have never met anyone from Ecuador.
Colombia, yes.

Callistemon Sat 02-Jan-21 10:36:59

Ok Callistemon, I'll ignore your comments in future, given that this was a direct response to your off topic comment.

As the thread changed direction it wasn't clear exactly what the topic was.

Callistemon Sat 02-Jan-21 10:52:05

Apportioning blame helps no-one

It's nothing to do with British exceptionalism or, conversely, something being wrong with the UK.

Yes, scientists in the UK did discover the mutation first.

Viruses mutate.
That is why scientists are constantly developing/tweaking vaccines.

www.breakthroughs.com/advancing-medical-research/how-do-viruses-mutate-and-what-it-means-vaccine

Ailidh Sat 02-Jan-21 10:54:08

I don't have a view about where the mutation originated but have long felt that we merely identified it sooner than other countries.

GagaJo Sat 02-Jan-21 10:59:15

I agree Ailidh. For once, we were ahead of the game and have unfortunately been tarred by the association.

Iam64 Sat 02-Jan-21 11:24:33

Bullying?! Where

Callistemon Sat 02-Jan-21 11:43:34

None whatsoever.
Questioning statements is not bullying.