What does Johnson mean by "safe"?

Yet another announcement, trying to catch up with events at 8pm.

Be the usual piffle I suppose. Trying to look as if he knows what he is talking about.

Johnson to broadcast message at 8pm - lockdown in England to follow lockdown in Scotland?

Perhaps he had actually listened to Starmer and will impose a national lockdown?

As I said, an oven ready U-Turn on it's way.

Perhaps he has listened to Ed Davey for once.

I have two grandchildren, one in primary school and one in secondary. GD in secondary has had one week off caused by a shortage of teachers and only one other year had to go into isolation for 2 weeks. GS in primary has been in and out all last term, finishing his last isolation Christmas Eve. This is more disruptive than not going at all. How can Boris say it’s safe when 30 children crowd into a room with no distancing, heating full belt, with no idea what each child has been in contact with over the past 2 weeks. A doctor on tv said this morning, one asymptomatic child going into a classroom is like throwing a handful of glitter around, it’s gets everywhere.
My daughter will not be sending him back to school, however ‘safe’ Boris claims it is.

I expect we all know this by now, but I think this is a very helpful article. With graphics

english.elpais.com/society/2020-10-28/a-room-a-bar-and-a-class-how-the-coronavirus-is-spread-through-the-air.html

My children are grown up but they have my grandchildren 2 are of school age one 15 and one 10,my advise to them is keep them at home.The pm doesn’t know what is or isn’t safe

Our youngest DD is the manager of an early years playschool, today she has had to deal with a very worrying situation where a child had continued to attend school recently with the parents both having tested positive for Covid over the Christmas Break. Another parent raised the alarm when the mother of this child was seen doing the drop off and pick up school run whilst still supposedly Isolating herself and the Child's father is still receiving hospital treatment. How selfish can some people be?

Exactly Grandma11, god knows what half the parents if these children have got up to but to let your child attend school knowing he/she could have/ carry the virus is evil beyond belief. Utterly selfish. Nature sure is getting her own back.

Well according to my friend whose a TA and due to retire in July and is looking to take early retirement because it so stressful teachers are not keeping to their bubbles at school, watering down of hand sanitiser and generally not bothering.
My friend has a 95 year old mum and she’s just had enough.

That's not an uncommon scenario grandma11, unfortunately.

The problems are arising from school budgets being cut and schools not being able to fund seep cleaning. I have heard of one school that has one cleaner for the whole school, how can that be deep cleaned each time, it’s not possible!

The real problem is that the average classroom measures 8 x 8 m2 and are often poorly ventilated. 30 pupils in a room that size for five or six hours a day can never be considered safe.

My daughter had to take my grandson right out of mainstream and register him as home schooled - or be fined.

His year 3 cousin caught Covid at school before Christmas and now his mother, a severe asthmatic, has confirmed Covid too. The rest of the family are asymptomatic as yet; my son has an inoperable brain tumour so I pray he remains well. They are in the other grandmother’s support bubble and she was with them for Christmas. We wait to hear if she has caught it.

I know that parents can’t be trusted to isolate as they would send sick children to school before the pandemic. There is a rule that says a child who has vomited must stay home for 48 hours thereafter. Mothers would be saying after dropping off their little one that the child had been sick after breakfast or in the night and they hoped their poorly child would be ok. Such parents cannot be trusted to abide by present rules.

I worried about removing my youngest grandson from school, which was done to protect me, but I think now that it was the sensible thing to do.

I've never understood why schools are still open . They're crowded places and parents have to take small children to school where they congregate with other parents . Ah well , let's see what happens. It wont hurt to close schools for another short while.

15th February...
Let's hope this finally puts us ahead of the virus.

Tonight's announcement sums it up doesn't it! I just wish he'd done this sooner.

'Johnson says the problem is not that schools are unsafe, adding that children are still unlikely to be affected by new variant, but they can “act as vectors for transmission.'

AKA, schools are unsafe.

So Johnson finally explained what he meant by "schools are safe" He meant that children could still catch it and pass it on to other people, but that they wouldn't be likely to become severely ill or die. His explanation sounds like a bit of a wriggle to me, since that would have been phrased as "children are safe" not "schools are safe", since anyone other than children, such as the staff, and parents who might catch it from their kids, would NOT be safe with schools open. He's such an eel!!!

EAsy be a i agree I'm sick of the BBC asking questions
that can't be answered like how many vaccines will be given in a
specific period of time surely it can only be estimated whether you are Horrid or anyone else give them a break i just can't watch BBC anymore

i mean i might describe the smarmy Labour guys as horrid but not Borris

Zuki

i mean i might describe the smarmy Labour guys as horrid but not Borris

So that’s ok. But asking questions is not ?

Is that the entire Labour Party ?

Thank goodness the government has described early years provision as safe today. I work in early years and had been worried but feel completely reassured now