Exercising once a day?

The guidelines are intended to be a kind of blanket recommendation, not hard and fast rules.
Surely taking the dog for a walk twice daily is a necessary journey, the fact that you're getting some exercise is a happy side effect?

Chardy

One of the scientific bods on TV said there's no point in shutting the airports now as we're in a worse position than everybody else, except South Africa. But yes, we should have shut them a long time ago.

Yes, and now the South African variant has got in, which I'm hearing may not be susceptible to the vaccine. I agree, in terms of numbers there is little point in closing our borders, but surely it is sensible to keep out new mutations?

Try a French strict-lockdown. One hour, not more than one kilomètre from home with a signed, dated, timed paper with home address Parks and woodland out of bounds. March till June (when English people were on the beach) and Sept till Dec when school and work permitted but curfew in some places at 6pm papers/ telephone or fined. We are all finding very hard, please stop saying what you can get away with, gloating, no one wants to be stuck at home.

I think it depends where you live. I have a grandson who stayed, with his girlfriend, at uni in the Lake District. They have literally headed for the hills every day over the Xmas break. (They chose not to return home for Christmas in case they were unable to return. Good decision that was) They come in contact with no one. They are breathing good clean air and keeping super healthy. Can't see lockdown keeping them shut up in their rooms. And no harm is being done to anyone.

It's a matter of common sense.

Some people feel they cant stay in the house. On another site a man told me he leaves the house from 2pm till midnight and drives around or sits and thinks in empty car parks. Others on the site felt the same ,that house is a prison.

This is another of those situations which will vary from person to person.

For some a half an hour walk once a day will be sufficient, others would prefer to get out more often, if they have a dog or children for instance.

Both are absolutely fine. I’m perfectly sure we won’t have a repeat of the ridiculous pictures back in the Spring of police drones spying on hapless dog walkers on deserted moors.

Australia is a much more isolated country with far fewer entry points. We have boats (and a tunnel) as well as planes. We may not be in the EU any longer but we have constant trade and interaction with mainland Europe.

I beg to differ.

At any one time Australia had a very high proportion of visitors, tourists, foreign workers, foreign students, possibly doubling its normal population but has shut borders including State borders to try to control the virus.

As for exercise here in the UK those living in England are allowed to drive somewhere for exercise but people living in Wales are not - exercise must be from home and people will be fined if they drive anywhere to a level place for exercise.
All very well if you don't live up a mountain and can't get back up under your own steam. ?

Casdon

It’s only for England isn’t it, we can have unlimited exercise outside in Wales?

Only if we walk from the house.
If we drive 2 miles to the woods I expect to find the Chief Constable there with a pad of parking tickets and a gleam in his/her eye.

I suppose I could do my Qigong in the front garden, that should keep the neighbours entertained.

So we all need to get dogs so we're able to take multiple walks a day? Dogs can empty their bladders and bowels in their private gardens, and surely nobody keeps dogs without any outside space. I thought the open air was the safest we get.... for goodness sake, let people preserve their sanity by getting out into fresh air if needed. Those of us with private gardens may not need to venture far for fresh air, flat dwellers will need to. My garden is tiny but it is open to the elements.

I'm not sure how anyone can now think that the restrictions are just rough guidlines, depending on how a person feels at the time.

I know a lot of them don't seem logical or easy, but the "stay home" message is clear enough.

MissChateline

Genty.......sorry but I will not put up with being insufferable neither will my partner. I would argue that looking after one’s mental health is as important and my walking and hiking alone, not seeing another person whilst I’m out is not an issue for me or for you. Incidentally I’m allowed to exercise once a day.....and with one other person.....it doesn’t say how long for. On Friday I will go for a day hike in the moors with a friend for at least 5 hours.
I’m prepared to do this keep healthy, both physically and mentally and unless you are twitching your curtains at 8am you wouldn’t know.

Well, as long as you are a special case then.

Can someone tell me the point of a lockdown if everyone is just going to follow their own “common sense”?

Pure madness.

May as we’ll continue on as normal.

I hope everybody advocating for common sense remembers that when a young person does something you don’t like.

Summerlove

Can someone tell me the point of a lockdown if everyone is just going to follow their own “common sense”?

Pure madness.

May as we’ll continue on as normal.

I hope everybody advocating for common sense remembers that when a young person does something you don’t like.

They all think they're Naughty Nora in the Forth Form anyway! You know the one? The one who does things just because she can. They're only jealous of young people doing things they wish they could do.

surely it is not necessary to go shopping every day.
cannot most people go at least a week between food shopping.
going shopping is a risky activity i think, so best to minimise it.
i think we should all be willing to restrict our activities, in solidarity with those who have no choice, ie front-line workers. they are bearing the brunt of this situation, and those directly affected by the illness, so the least we can do is to show some restraint.

MissChateline

Please tell me which is more healthy, both physical and mentally.......sitting inside 4 walls all day and every day, getting very anxious, putting on weight, bored and stressed or heading off alone at 8 am through isolated woods, moorland and fields. Tell me that it isn’t better to enjoy the beauty of the surroundings, to feel good and to get the old endorphins going. Tell e that it isn’t great striding off across the hills with a flask and sandwich not seeing another soul. Tell me why it is ok in Scotland to have unlimited hikes but not ok in England. Which is not OK......2 shorter walks alone or one 5 hour walk with a companion.
Please can we rely on common sense and making personal risk assessments. I am not endangering you or anyone else. Please stop being so judgmental and please stop all the virtue signalling. I don’t sanitise my partner 3 times a day or bleach my shopping. I don’t quarantine my mail but I do follow guidelines when around others.

What part of 'lockdown, stay at home' do you not understand? Its a very selfish attitude to take to adjust the rules to suit yourself!

MissChateline

Genty.......sorry but I will not put up with being insufferable neither will my partner. I would argue that looking after one’s mental health is as important and my walking and hiking alone, not seeing another person whilst I’m out is not an issue for me or for you. Incidentally I’m allowed to exercise once a day.....and with one other person.....it doesn’t say how long for. On Friday I will go for a day hike in the moors with a friend for at least 5 hours.
I’m prepared to do this keep healthy, both physically and mentally and unless you are twitching your curtains at 8am you wouldn’t know.

What would happen if you tested positive for the virus? Then you have to isolate for some days - would you then break isolation rules?

Moonlight 113.....I totally agree. What’s the point in living in the middle of beautiful countryside if all you do is sit and gaze at the empty space outside. If you see no one whilst you are out how is this any way “dangerous “. Surely common sense should prevail.
I understand that the national trust are keeping their gardens open. They recognise the importance of fresh air and exercise. I do happen to live within walking distance of a NT a huge woodland area that goes straight onto the moors but am more than happy to take our small Campervan to Fountains Abbey (for example) for a day out.
As for not shopping every day. In about 20 mins I will have an Ocado delivery, probably one every couple of weeks when my partner is here with me. When I’m alone it’s probably more like once a month. I happen to like fresh vegetables, salad and fresh meat and fish. We are lucky enough to have 2 exceptionally good butchers, a fabulous market and lots of independent small food shops. I will still go down for fresh food and milk every day as I like good quality products. The idea of eating week old food is not one I wish to contemplate. Yes I do have a freezer and do batch cook but I happen to like fresh vegetables to go with it.
To me that’s what shops are for.....buying fresh food. Masks are worn and hands sanitised. Your problem is ?

I would also hate to think what state my immune system would be in with a diet of stale food, no fresh veg or fruit and no fresh air or exercise. Sunshine and daylight increase Vitamin D, fresh veg and fruit for Vit C. I’m sure that most people know this. I also do weight training with kettlebells.
I believe that anxiety and worrying about everything reduces the immune system to deal with any infections (of any kind). Maybe this is why I’ve never had a days illness in my 66 years.
I am careful around others, mindful of proximity to others, wear a mask etc etc......but will not be of the “never stick my nose out of the door” brigade. Mental and physical health is equally important for all of us.

welbeck

surely it is not necessary to go shopping every day.
cannot most people go at least a week between food shopping.
going shopping is a risky activity i think, so best to minimise it.
i think we should all be willing to restrict our activities, in solidarity with those who have no choice, ie front-line workers. they are bearing the brunt of this situation, and those directly affected by the illness, so the least we can do is to show some restraint.

No, it isn't. I haven't been shopping since March.

I have not been able to get delivery slots, so I do go to the shops. I mask and sanitise, go to local Tesco which is small and not too busy, and local butcher. We eat lots of fruit and veg which need topping up two or three times a week. I also go for walks in my local Royal park,and consider myself fortunate to live near it. I see nothing wrong with walking dogs twice a day,, when I had dogs I always did this.

Let's all get dogs and take them for two three hour walks every day. Every park and patch of open countryside would soon be full. How about if all the town flat-dwellers descended on beauty spots in their thousands? After all, they're not doing any harm. Fortunately, most people aren't quite so selfish and entitled. Too many people take the pi$$, which is why rules are needed and I have no sympathy at all for those who break them.

Why are so many people blinkered and not listening and hell bent on breaking covid rules or twisting them to suit themselves then feel the need to start bragging about it!

growstuff I totally agree with you, so many people finding any reason for them to circumnavigate Covid-19 rules.

I have a delivery of fresh fruit and veg once a week, if I am unable to get one I go to local farm shop I have always found that fruit and veg is capable of lasting a week (or more).

Maybe some folks are more special than others.

The rules and guidelines are all set out on gov.uk and of course we should all follow them. None of us are so special that we can do our own thing and expect others to smile indulgently, unless of course we are exempted due to circumstances acknowledged by the regulations.

So, under the rules re exercise: You should minimise time spent outside your home.....This should be limited to once per day, and you should not travel outside your local area.

But attending to the care and exercise of an animal is given as a separate valid reason to leave the house, so walking the dog is allowed.

MissChateline my DH would agree with you wholeheartedly! For some people the lockdown doesn’t make much difference as they don’t usually go out anyway for whatever reason, some like yourself and my DH need it for their physical and mental well-being. If you are lucky enough to be able to walk in a quiet area I don’t see the problem and anyway this is allowed (at the moment).