Astrazeneca vaccine suspended..... Not proven to be linked to the jab yet, but investigations are ongoing *title edited by GNHQ*

There is a report that the real reason for suspension the shortage of syringes, which, if true, is another massive FAIL for the EU; they can't give shots so they curtail the AZ vaccine.

It is right for the medical authorities to monitor vaccination side effects, but this should be done quickly and quietly, for the blood clot cases it means a simple check of medical history and medication taken by the people who suffered the condition.

It is the covid-19 itself which creates blood clots in the lungs and blood vessels and brain - these people might have had active Covid-19 disease when given the vaccine and the blood clots were there in the first place??

Point is: you do not suspend a national vaccination without causative, clinical indication that the vaccine WAS the actual cause.

Alegrias ??

Ellianne

I'm going to have to put a stop on my buying Estee Lauder revitalising cream at nearly £70 a pot!

GrannyGravy13

It’s been reported that President Macron is going to begin proceedings against Astra Zeneca for not fulfilling all of France’s order of vaccines.

This whilst they have thousands and thousands of doses of the Astra Zeneca vaccine stored in warehouses?

You couldn’t make it up!

Maybe the EU should send the AZ vaccine on to the African countries if they don't want it. It is wrong that it is not being used. The Congo has just started vaccinating with Astra Zenica.

Macron’s dislike of anything British is becoming more evident by the day. That he is happy to allow his citizens to continue to die from Covid whilst he has stores of a proven vaccine is criminal.

My friend made me laugh this afternoon. We were talking about this subject and she said she’d had her AZ jab. 3 days later she said her broadband went down. Could they be related?
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maddyone

Macron’s dislike of anything British is becoming more evident by the day. That he is happy to allow his citizens to continue to die from Covid whilst he has stores of a proven vaccine is criminal.

And will Macron now blame the new variant found in Bretagne on La Grande-Bretagne?

I was starting to feel sorry for the eu. Then I came to my senses. ?

In case people didn't see the full quote, permit me:

"The head of Italy’s medicine regulator AIFA, admitted today that politicians had come under pressure to suspend AstraZeneca vaccines after Germany and France made similar moves.

‘We got to the point of a suspension because several European countries, including Germany and France, preferred to interrupt vaccinations. The choice is a political one’, Magrini said in an interview with La Repubblica."

EU showing their true colours now, they would rather people die of coronavirus than use the British Astrazeneca product. Thank God we left the corrupt EU. So jealous are they of the UK and the fact we are world beating with our vaccination programme and getting the UK up and running again.

The EU have not mandated the pause. Individual countries have decided that for themselves.

And yeah, Macron at al have decided some of their people might have to die just to get at the Brits.

That's exactly what's happening. It's political.

I think this is just yah boo sucks behaviour by countries that were not as well organised as us in rolling out the vaccine. It gives them an excuse for their tardiness and a stick to beat perfidious Albion with for leavimg the EU.

These cases were known about and discussed back in January. So why everyone is reacting now months after the event I do not know.

Obviously a little cluster, of what I understand to be quite a rare type of blood clot, must be a cause for concern, but over 70 million AZ vaccines have been administered and, as I understand, a cluster like this has not occurred anywhere else.

Add that to the shortage of suitable syringes throughout Europe.

Just been on the news that France decided to go because Germany had gone. They decided to pause because they are so worried about their populations being vaccine hesitant and they want to show they are being as careful as possible. I think they've got this very wrong.

But really, not everything is about us.....we really aren't that important, surprising though it is for people.

Might the precautionary principle in the EU be the reason why not a single one of the world’s 20 most valuable tech companies is European, and why the region lags again in artificial intelligence?

It is true that BioNTech’s ground-breaking mRNA vaccine was made in Germany, but its founders are Turkish immigrants and most of the clinical trials took place in the US, Turkey, Brazil, Argentina and South Africa. It is famously difficult to conduct clinical trials in the EU.

They decided to pause because they are so worried about their populations being vaccine hesitant and they want to show they are being as careful as possible.
I'm not in France or Germany so can't compare but instead of trying to show how cautious they are, why didn't they go all out at the start to convince their populations that the vaccines are the only way out of this mess? To be fair, the UK government has worked its socks off to get the message across that the more people in the country are vaccinated the more chance we have of getting on top of the virus, of rebooting the economy and of getting life back to normal.

I can't speak for Germany but I have lived in France and there is a different attitude to healthcare issues there. I wouldn't be surprised if they are inherently more reticent about all vaccines than we are; that's not a criticism, just an observation.

Maybe someone who has lived in France, or is French, would be able to say if I'm right.

I can't understand why France, the home of Louis Pasteur, Marie Curie etc is so much more reticent about vaccines.
I lived in France for many years, the healthcare is exceptional. You can't visit the doctor without leaving with a big bag full of pills and potions! In addition, a French friend who had Hodgkins had very aggressive intravenous drug treatment. Another had innovative spinal surgery. I certainly wouldn't say they shy away from medical intervention. It all seems strange.

French people are wary of specific vaccines. They do not trust their government about new ones.

In 1991, in France’s biggest public health scandal, the government was found to have knowingly administered transfusions with contaminated blood from people who were HIV positive to at least 1,200 haemophiliacs, which led to hundreds of deaths.

French government officials had initially said they were not aware the blood was contaminated. Three ministers, including former Prime Minister Laurent Fabius, were charged with manslaughter. Only one was found guilty and received no sentence.

But to this day the scandal has left public confidence in the government shaky at best.

Interesting Urmstongran, and yet French children are not allowed to start school unless they have had all the necessary vaccinations!

Urmstongran

French people are wary of specific vaccines. They do not trust their government about new ones.

In 1991, in France’s biggest public health scandal, the government was found to have knowingly administered transfusions with contaminated blood from people who were HIV positive to at least 1,200 haemophiliacs, which led to hundreds of deaths.

French government officials had initially said they were not aware the blood was contaminated. Three ministers, including former Prime Minister Laurent Fabius, were charged with manslaughter. Only one was found guilty and received no sentence.

But to this day the scandal has left public confidence in the government shaky at best.

Oh dear - perhaps you better read this before getting too critical of the French. I remember it well . But I don’t think anyone was charged here

haemophilia.org.uk/background/

Ellianne I dare say the set of vaccinations necessary to begin school are not ‘new ones’. (like covid jab) Kind of proves my point?

I will read that link in a bit sw I’m trying to multi-task at present!