Astrazeneca vaccine suspended..... Not proven to be linked to the jab yet, but investigations are ongoing *title edited by GNHQ*

Ellianne and a blood test in France for everything! To go back, I know of at least three expats who have returned to the UK for their vaccinations, wrong on many levels.
This explains some of the French hesitency:

www.theguardian.com/global/2021/jan/11/vaccine-scepticism-in-france-reflects-dissatisfaction-with-political-class

I believe France actually invented several vaccines, including the TB vaccine.
Yes, Jaxjacky blood tests for everything! I think French doctors tend to think about the whole person by looking for every possible cause.

Thanks for article.

Now this is strange sw as this ...

“In 1991, there was a medical scandal not linked to vaccines specifically when it was discovered that health authorities had knowingly distributed blood products contaminated with HIV to haemophiliacs in the 1980s. Several ministers were later charged with manslaughter.”

... was in the article supplied there by Jaxjacky in the Guardian article?

When I was studying European Healthcare systems, it was fascinating to learn about the different models of not just the actual structures but the cultural differences. At that time, French people were prescribed far more medication than any other European country. I also remember a sentence in a book about the German system which still makes me smile “Healthy is the German who has not been tested enough”

Actually I wasn’t being critical at all. I have no skin in the game. The French either vaccinate or not. It’s their decision. I was just curious as to where the overall reticence came from.

Urmstongran

Now this is strange sw as this ...

“In 1991, there was a medical scandal not linked to vaccines specifically when it was discovered that health authorities had knowingly distributed blood products contaminated with HIV to haemophiliacs in the 1980s. Several ministers were later charged with manslaughter.”

... was in the article supplied there by Jaxjacky in the Guardian article?

I’m confused - what is strange. Maybe I’m just tired and missing the point. Help

Oh well, it looks like Macron has caved in now over the vaccine.

The EU seem to be Jabbing each other in the Back.
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The worrying thing to me is that until we’re all vaccinated we all remain at risk. As the virus circulates it mutates, and it’s possible a very deadly mutation might develop, which is resistant to current vaccines. Therefore I’m quite anxious that everyone wherever they live, gets a vaccination.

maddyone

The worrying thing to me is that until we’re all vaccinated we all remain at risk. As the virus circulates it mutates, and it’s possible a very deadly mutation might develop, which is resistant to current vaccines. Therefore I’m quite anxious that everyone wherever they live, gets a vaccination.

Yes this maddyone. I do understand countries exercising caution when a possible adverse side effect emerges, but at the same time I wonder if those already vaccine hesitant won't believe it's OK when the resumption starts. Fear feeds fear, and we really need as many people as possible vaccinated as quickly as possible. There needs to be a very clear explanation if the vaccine was responsible for any of the blood clots, and emphasis on the rarity of this complication.

From The Telegraph today Allison Pearson

In general, our group felt lucky to have got the AstraZeneca. I was about to say I was surprised that so many European countries have suspended the Oxford vaccine rollout amid safety fears. But that wouldn’t strictly be true. I mean, how many people could have predicted that the arrogant, unaccountable, fabulously incompetent EU would rather act spitefully and punish British success by cutting off its nose to spite its face than protect its citizens from severe illness and death?

Apart from the 17,410,742 prophetic geniuses who voted for Brexit, that is.

The EU have told its members states to keep using the Oxford vaccine, always has. Alison Pearson is either wilfully misrepresenting that or she doesn't really understand what's going on.

Unlike you lol. Must be wonderful yo think you know it all ?

Bit personal, no?

Just read the facts. The EU have told their members to keep using it. It's not that hard to understand.

Alegrias1

The EU have told its members states to keep using the Oxford vaccine, always has. Alison Pearson is either wilfully misrepresenting that or she doesn't really understand what's going on.

Given it’s AP, it’s both She takes ‘journalism’ to a level so low that it’s frankly beyond my wildest imaginings?

Yes they have done a big U turn today. Its all political.

Firecracker123

Unlike you lol. Must be wonderful yo think you know it all ?

Yes it is - except I don’t think I know???

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It's not the EU, it's not even some EU countries, it's the French stirring it again. I specifically listened in to French stations this morning and they talk about "le vaccin anglais" and with the next breath say "le vaccin Pfizer". They just can't help themselves.

There is no difference between any of the vaccines or the unvaccinated in terms of blood clots. The claims are based on political shenanigans. The World Health Organisation and other medical organisations are all supporting it. The UK is showing the EU to be incompetent and they won’t allow that to happen. It’s doubts about its competence which could lead to further disintegration. I was a firm Remainer but I have changed my opinion now that their bully boy tactics have been revealed. Get out there and get vaccinated and show the EU citizens there is only benefit to be had from this cheaper more affordable and manageable vaccine.

Yes it's Macron and Merkel.

Ellianne

It's not the EU, it's not even some EU countries, it's the French stirring it again. I specifically listened in to French stations this morning and they talk about "le vaccin anglais" and with the next breath say "le vaccin Pfizer". They just can't help themselves.

As I’ve said before, whatever the motivations behind all this ( and some will be grubbily political) I just feel really sad for all countries without vaccine rollouts.

08:45Lovetopaint037

Agree ?

And it’s unfair and inaccurate to lump all European Countries together