Holidays abroad illegal from Monday 23rd March

Sorry Urmstongran thought you were serious ?

I have family abroad and, of course, I miss them - yet still, I think travel should be banned to protect us all.

Hopefully, we'll avoid any more lockdowns.

Peasblossom we have followed the rules so have our loved ones. I have seen my daughter and granddaughter once in nearly a year. How can that be 'ways round' when we have been following government advice to the letter. Direct your opinion to those who want to travel and bring back more cases of covid to our shores.

Preparing a holiday home for rent is far from being the only legitimate reason given for travelling abroad. There is a whole list, including education, work, funerals etc.
I am sure there may be circumstances where the risk may be worth taking, but personally I can't think of any.
Foreign travel will just circulate variants of the virus. I want to limit it, not spread it.

Maizie I understand yournpoint about Stanley Johnson, my point was really based on whether the virus could discriminate between reasons someone went abroad, infect them if they were just going for a holiday and not if it was to prepare a property to let, although who is going to be renting them when no foreign travel is permitted is not clear.

dragonfly, I'm so sorry about your Mum lots of love to you at this time xx

My elderly mother in law is in hospital after a fall and no one is allowed to visit or send anything on (I know some of this is sensible and practical) the hospital are obviously looking after her though as a Dr facetimed my sister in law with my Mother in law present and my Mother in law was wearing a 'really posh nightie and robe' ~ sil 'where have you had that from Mum?' she asks - 'oh some one brought us all a 'present in' she says, sat their like the Queen ready for bed

I'm sorry about my earlier ranting I took the dog a walk and I am now aching all over but much calmer!

dragonfly46

I think they should allow people to travel who have family abroad. They are more important than second homes.

We're missing ours too, but they won't let us into the country even if we could get there.

Sorry redhead I should have made it clear that the ways round comment wasn’t directed at you. I was responding to urmstongran but I hope I’ve put that right with her.

I was surprised at your ‘bxxxt’ comment though, I guess my nephews despair at families meeting up and the consequences has got to me.

I haven’t seen my family for over a year either. ?

? Peasblossom that’s okay. Sometimes jokiness is hard to convey on here.

As it happens I have close family in NZ and I would love to go to see them BUT just now No travel abroad for anyone except as I said before medical emergency or treatment. Why should anyone be exempt?

I’m beginning to think I shall be soon demonstrating against this creeping attack on our hard one freedoms. I thought I’d finished doing that years ago but maybe not, after all.

Whoops ... WON freedoms

M0nica

Maizie I understand yournpoint about Stanley Johnson, my point was really based on whether the virus could discriminate between reasons someone went abroad, infect them if they were just going for a holiday and not if it was to prepare a property to let, although who is going to be renting them when no foreign travel is permitted is not clear.

I quite understand MOnica.

I'm just so that this exemption is so blatant.

MaizieD

M0nica

Maizie I understand yournpoint about Stanley Johnson, my point was really based on whether the virus could discriminate between reasons someone went abroad, infect them if they were just going for a holiday and not if it was to prepare a property to let, although who is going to be renting them when no foreign travel is permitted is not clear.

I quite understand MOnica.

I'm just so that this exemption is so blatant.

It’s as if the voter has become cowed.

Peasblossom I think we are all coming to the end of our tethers it's gone on so long. We follow the guidelines while others think they are above them.?

It is the exemption being so blatant that has annoyed me the most. Know your place serfs and plebs

It is wrong to judge all those with second homes as automatically being wealthy.
Many people would have made sacrifices to be able to afford, say, a little flat in a holiday destination both here and abroad.

Although in some respects it grieves me to say it, I think European holidays this year should not go ahead.

Scientists have repeatedly pointed out that the longer the virus is around, the more there is the potential for it to mutate with the danger that our vaccines won’t protect us.

We are all well aware of the complete shambles surrounding the EU’s vaccine rollout, and as we have seen, the virus is taking advantage of the many hundreds of millions of unvaccinated people in Europe.

I may be wrong (I often am!), but the BBC website seems to be saying that
international leisure travel may resume no earlier than 17 May, not 30 June? Have I misunderstood?

www.bbc.co.uk/news/explainers-52530518

Who exactly are the 2nd home owners 'renting' them to if no one can go?(oh, it'll be the their fellow EU dwellers will it?) ??

Yes, i knew the exemption would be to allow Boris, his family, and all the other 'posh lot' to do as they want in a pandemic..while we all toe the line, and they happily spread covid still...What Boris said (it showed on news) about this EU third wave coming here as well,- yes Boris it will, because you WONT CLOSE THE BL**DY BORDERS& AIRPOTS FULLY??

So some people think it’s a good idea to leave a country with a low infection rate to holiday in a country with a high infection rate and then come back. Or am I misinterpreting this?

We have a second home in France, which we would like to visit. We miss it very much, but like most people in our situation we have no intention of going there until it is permitted and we have been told it is safe to do so.

The trouble with letting people travel to see family abroad is that it would soon reach a point similar to the inequities surrounding bereavement and compassionate leave. There are those for whom close friends, partners, third cousins are closer than their parents or children, and others who will use concessions to their advantage, despite never having seen their granny for decades.

That is harsh, I know; and I know that there are people who are desperate to see their loved ones, but I'm afraid that it is true, and also that the virus doesn't care about how much any of us wants to see someone - it will still kill many who are infected by it.

Oh, and as for the SJ loophole - that is bare-faced cheeck, and encapsulates this government's attitude to 'their own kind's' superiority over the rest of us. I hope this is raised in PMQs, as I would love to see Johnson's explanation. Actually, I would like to hear Professor Van Tam or Chris Whitty's opinion on the matter even more.

I would be happy to be allowed to travel to West Wales to see my in laws.My FIL is 93 and his health is failing.Every week he asks my husband when are you coming to see me.Hopefully soon we will be able to go down to see them.
My heart goes out to Ashcombe and others with close family members abroad.

I hugged my daughter,4yr old grandson and 3week old baby in feb 2020 at Dubai airport...baby is running around now , it hurts so much that I haven't been able to see them....my two granddaughters in Australia often cry on the phone because they are missing us....so it angers me that overseas home owners can visit their properties...but grandparents cant visit overseas grandchildren.
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