Son and wife not having the vaccination

Firstly, I totally understand why some people are reluctant to have the vaccine. Luckily in the UK take up is high.

My adult children are actively looking forward to getting theirs.

I've had mine and was fine apart from sleeping for about 5 hours after having it which was nothing but pleasant.

However, we must remember that the vaccine doesn't actually take in everyone who has it. So people who are vaccinated can still catch this virus and possibly be quite ill. They can also pass it on.

A very small amount of people admitted to hospital with Covid had had the vaccine.

I'm a great advocate for MMR due to seeing first hand the horrors that measles can cause to a baby.

I think that 3% of children who have the MMR jab are not covered for whatever reason.

So whilst I am totally opposed to mandatory vaccines we must remember that there is still a possibility of catching it and passing it on.

I'm no expert on vaccines, I think someone on this site is, so hopefully she'll be along to explain what I'm trying to say in better terms!

If my children had decided not to vaccinate I'd still see them though and having them in the house. But it's entirely your choice.

I think you'd probably be more likely to die in a car crash en route to your family than die of vaccine side effects though .

I don't think that you are being unreasonable but everyone had to make their own choice. My Dil has refused the vaccine too, we we however continue to see her in line with the current restrictions. We have had both jabs and have done what we can. We ate very wary about the current situation and don't feel it's as rosy as we are being led to believe.
Having said that we have to live our lives in Covid times and doing what we think is best.

Covid is a killer! I recognize the right of people to refuse it . However if no one had the vaccine, then God help us all! We are so fortunate to have such amazing researchers who have produced the vaccines . People who decline the offer of vaccination are relying on others who do to keep them Covid free- I hope they are not disappointed!! I was very pleased to have the vaccination the vaccine roll out has been remarkable in the UK and I am most grateful for that. We have a friend who has refused , vaccination, his wife is not happy with him!! Please, any refusers out there do reconsider your decision.

Sorry to hear that Biscuitmuncher. I hope your husband recovers soon. 6 weeks is a long time to be unwell.

CafeAuLait my husband had the jab around 6 weeks ago and hes not been well since! If people have had their jabs why are they so worried about those who dont?

Franbern, you do you.

The last time I got a vaccine to be socially responsible as well as protect myself I ended up suffering the side effects for a year afterwards. I'm now more circumspect about any vaccine in my future, not just this one. I'm not prepared to risk going through anything like what I went through again to make someone else feel more comfortable. I'm not saying I won't have it, just not yet.

Franbern well said.

Those who won’t be vaccinated are putting themselves at risk. At the moment though they see themselves as safe because we are all lining up for ours.
However.
Turkey is allowing travellers from India to transit and holiday there before flying back to the U.K. without the need to quarantine. You can pop back from Dubai via Athens, I think they are coming back via Nairobi too but I don’t know anyone who has done that. People from here will start travelling and we are not free of risk. Some chap, ex management with Etihad has just been fined £10,000 for flying back from Abu Dhabi via Switzerland. He has dual Ausralian and British nationality so used both of them to get back.

With idiots like that we still have to be careful. It hasn’t gone yet, Sydney has 2 new cases.
I have had so many vaccines over the years and my money is on that route.

I must say I am quite amazed as to how many people want to believe the rubbish on conspiracy theories, or else, using them as an excuse not to get themselves vaccinated. Vaccines are probably one the greatest medical advances of all times. Just think about smallpox, diptheria, polio, etc. etc

These particular vaccines have NOT been rushed through without proper testing, scientists have been working on Covid vaccines for years, and this last year finally receiving the funding to enable them to bring about successful conclusions. These vaccines are the the only final way out for the world of this Pandemic.

I am so grateful for them which can mean that we can start to return to some sort of normality. I have not been a person who has isolated myself away during this past year. Have gone out, continued to do my own weekly shop, etc. but was aware that this particular virus was causing total havoc with all our lives.

I would not be worried about coming across someone, either knowlingly or not, who has refused this protection. Would be unlikely to effect me, as I have had both of mine. They are putting themselves at risk, not me. I would continue to visit any of my children, etc. who had gone down this road, but would want to discuss this with them as they are wrong - 'No, I do not 'respect' their viewpoint - any more than I respect the viewpoint of those parents who have refused to have their children protected via vaccines - I think they are guilty of neglect!!!

I feel the same way as you Biscuitmuncher.

I'm not having the vaccine. I may have it one day but theres too many question Mark's about it. Maybe if I'd spent the last year frightened about catching covid I might feel different

You need to be free to decide what to do about socialising with people who have or haven't had the vaccine, just as people are free to decide whether or not to have the vaccine. If you've had yours and feel confident with it, you could meet them, or meet them in a place outdoors, if that makes you feel safer.

I'm not eligible for the vaccine at this time and I'm a bit concerned about being around people who have had the vaccine. If they still can get Covid but not have symptoms, I feel that puts me at risk of exposure. I'm not going around worrying but I'm also not putting myself in a position to risk exposure. I might stick to outdoor meetings with people, vaccinated or not, for now.

I am not getting the vaccine and neither is my youngest son and his fiancée. My husband has had both of of his.

Many young people are concerned about the long term effects of these vaccines.

There’s not much you can do unfortunately, but you have the same rights to choice as them, so no, you are not being unreasonable at all.

People have the right to choose whether or not to have the vaccine and should not be expected to give a reason for their decision. However, on a personal level, I feel anyone without a solid reason why they should not have the jab should go and get it. The virus is not going to disappear of its own accord so we must find ways to co-exist with it and at the moment the vaccines seem the only way. Perhaps if vaccine passports need producing for social and leisure events they may have a change of heart.

You have had your vaccines and your DGD will not be having one anyway so in your position I would still see her; she has been in school with all the risks that entails anyway.

They may change their minds or you could just see them outdoors if that makes you feel safer - but the main point is that you are at less risk than they are as you've had both your vaccinations.

It wouldn't bother me in terms of visiting family.

However, I can see some people running into difficulties re regulations in other areas of life as I don't think it's going be as clear cut as personal choice.

DD2 (she's had her 1st jab) was talking yesterday that there is a recent ruling in favour of businesses being able to let staff go if they Do Not have the vaccine without there being a case for Unfair Dismissal. Part of her role is Health and Safety so I guess that's why she knows about this but I haven't researched it.

I think for Employee and Business Insurance there may be more of these sort of rules that will affect people re vaccinations choice too.

I also wonder about Travel Insurance, it's already established that if you don't have any required vaccinations for where you are going your Insurance is invalid even if you break a leg that has nothing to do with Yellow Fever etc.

Time will tell.

I have one adult child not wanting it but I will still visit because I ve had mine and feel I ll often be round someone who hasnt but I will never know that will I ? I could be served by someone in a shop, sit next to someone in a bus or restaurant who hasn’t had the vaccine but I will never know
You will never get 100% compliance
I don’t think you can expect everyone to think as you do
My newly married eldest granddaughter has a new husband who believes all the tripe about conspiracies I wonder if she will have it or follow him We ll see !

As soon as they want to travel they ll be begging for a jab ???

Unfortunately there is a lot of peer pressure on the anti view if young people find it on the internet, and a lot of misleading facts

This is a very tricky situation , and I am in the same position regarding my daughter and her husband declining the vaccine. They are not anti vax in general, just anti covid vaccination. My daughter is concerned about possible long term effects. I don’t agree with her decision, but neither do I want to put any pressure on her to change her mind, apart from pointing out that we’d still have smallpox if everyone felt that way.
However, I will still see them in the normal way as long as they continue to do the tests.

Oh dear. Fingers crossed for peer pressure. If you're not comfortable seeing them other than outside and socially distanced it's their problem if they don't like it. Be strong.

I am getting ready to run and hide but I just thought I would mention that I was told by a nurse doing the vaccine that certain people who are turning down the jab will be able to get the vaccine in tablet form although it will not be ready until about August, I think it is for people that have had poor reactions to other vaccines and medication.

principal principle

Are they anti all vaccines? Has their child had the usual vaccines? If they're not objecting on principal, I find it odd that they are making an exception for the Covid vax.

While I am pro vaccine, I understand some individuals may not want it

Are there medical reasons? Manufacturer reasons? Scared of side effects?

If my family decided not to have the vaccine it wouldn’t bother me at all, I would still visit with them.
But then I’m the person, who when their daughter had a meltdown because of the food shelves being stripped rushed to her house to hug and comfort her, and carried on seeing her.