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Reluctance of the young to be vaccinated?

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Santana Tue 25-May-21 16:01:24

I asked the 19 year old washing my hair at the hairdresser's whether she would have the vaccine when offered. She said although she was reluctant to put something unknown into her body, she guessed she would have to in order to go clubbing or travel.
I agreed that I could see her point, but I expect the vaccines she had as a baby and child could have saved her life.
It must be very difficult for the young to decide.
We did laugh when I said I was going clubbing as I had both my vaccinations!
Won't risk the nose stud or tattoos though. Far to painful.

SueDonim Tue 25-May-21 18:23:13

All of my NQ medic daughter’s friends have had both doses of the vacc and v glad to have it, too.

I also know a number of young people (between 18-22) who’ve had at least one dose, because they are carers or have a family member who is CEV. It’s brought them all peace of mind.

Doodledog Tue 25-May-21 18:29:20

Yes, I can't answer for this person, but I know the Vegan society is saying that people should have it.

The thing is, though, it's not like a religious leader giving exemption - he is a vegan for his own reasons, and not in any way responsible to the vegan society.

I'm not defending or attacking his position, though.

Trisha57 Tue 25-May-21 18:37:18

My daughters, both in their 30s, have had both of their jabs. One works in a care home setting and the other has a job which necessitates her going into care homes on occasion. They are both delighted that they got their jabs and have done their bit to keep themselves and others safer.

Santana Tue 25-May-21 18:49:36

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Santana Tue 25-May-21 18:51:12

Sorry hit the trigger too quick there!
I've been thinking about what I would have done at 19. Would have definitely had my vaccinations!

BlueBelle Tue 25-May-21 19:11:24

Well when I was 19/20 I went to the Far East to live for three years and had every vaccine under the sun and as I d had none as a child I had those ones as well all within a few weeks
If it’s a necessity then you do it

BlueBelle Tue 25-May-21 19:11:51

Whatever age (sorry pressed button too soon)

Biscuitmuncher Tue 25-May-21 20:04:26

Well I'm 54 and I've refused it, and my children dont want it

MayBee70 Tue 25-May-21 21:32:14

Biscuitmuncher

Well I'm 54 and I've refused it, and my children dont want it

Don’t worry. The rest of us will have it and protect you.

Biscuitmuncher Tue 25-May-21 23:34:24

MayBee70 thank you, I gave up a year of my life to protect you

muse Wed 26-May-21 00:46:33

MayBee70

Biscuitmuncher

Well I'm 54 and I've refused it, and my children dont want it

Don’t worry. The rest of us will have it and protect you.

MayBee70: Why do you think that by you having the vaccine it will protect others from getting Covid19?

Biscuitmuncher: You and your family have made the choice not to be vaccinated, therefore leaving yourselves vulnerable to get any variant of Covid. But I can't understand why you followed the lockdown rules (giving up a year of your life) which helped stop the spread, yet you won't have the vaccine. The two contradict each other.

MayBee70 Wed 26-May-21 01:03:46

Because having the vaccine does reduce transmission although it isn’t known yet how much by. And the more people that have the vaccine the closer we will get to herd immunity.

Doodledog Wed 26-May-21 02:16:31

Yes, like any vaccination rollout, the more people who get it, the more effective it is, as everyone, vaccinated or not, is less likely to come into contact with the virus.

I do think that (assuming that there is no good reason for refusing) allowing others to take any risks that may be involved in getting the vaccine, while benefiting from the reduced risk of catching Covid is both selfish, and arrogant.

I would imagine that the fewer people who take it up, the greater the risk of further mutations, too.

Biscuitmuncher Wed 26-May-21 05:33:19

muse what other choice was there but stick to the lockdown laws? But I've a choice about having an untested trial drug, that's made a lot of people very ill for a disease that a lot of people recover from. Also all the vaccines we had as children stopped us from catching the disease, this one doesn't

Whiff Wed 26-May-21 06:47:43

Biscuitmuncher my son had the measles vaccine as a child still got measles same with the mumps one . But it's better to have the vaccines than not. Bet people in third world countries wish they could have all the vaccines we can have here on the NHS. I know my grandchildren have all had the chicken pox vaccines their parents gladly paid for them.

Any vaccines going all the family has them. When I am 70 will be going for my shingles one.

Wonder how many people who are anti Covid vaccine have gladly paid to have vaccines so they can go to far flung places for their holidays. Also gladly take anti maleria tablets.

Not everyone who has had Covid has survived. How many families has this disease destroyed. I know how ill my daughter and family where when they had it. My daughter and son in law where glad to have the vaccine.
I 've had both doses of mine. And will go for the booster in the autumn . I have the flu jab for the last 4 years because of my heart condition.

Those who are anti vaccine would soon change their mine if they got it or had someone seriously ill in the family from it or even had a relative die from it.

Alegrias1 Wed 26-May-21 07:59:42

Biscuitmuncher

muse what other choice was there but stick to the lockdown laws? But I've a choice about having an untested trial drug, that's made a lot of people very ill for a disease that a lot of people recover from. Also all the vaccines we had as children stopped us from catching the disease, this one doesn't

Wrong on so many counts.

Oopsadaisy1 Wed 26-May-21 08:04:51

Well biscuitmuncher we also gave up a year of our lives to protect You, so don’t forget that.

Now we are having the Vaccines to protect people like You, who won’t have it.

Gingster Wed 26-May-21 08:12:21

My 18 yr old gd is having her first jab on Friday. She is at Uni on a mental health nursing course, and will have multiple placements .

Witzend Wed 26-May-21 08:25:49

I only know one person who’s refused it - a retired ex colleague. However he’s the sort of person who won’t even take paracetamol for a headache, either.
A dd knows one or two - late 30s, early 40s - who’ve refused it.

foxie48 Wed 26-May-21 08:30:52

Biscuitmuncher

muse what other choice was there but stick to the lockdown laws? But I've a choice about having an untested trial drug, that's made a lot of people very ill for a disease that a lot of people recover from. Also all the vaccines we had as children stopped us from catching the disease, this one doesn't

I don't know where you get your information from but I'd urge you to reconsider your decision. In the last wave my daughter was working in one of the areas which was badly affected, her patients were mainly in their 50's because the older age groups had had at least a first vaccination which protected them from serious illness. She's seen a lot of people of your age in intensive care, some didn't make it. she's not had a single patient in intensive care because of having the vaccination.

rosie1959 Wed 26-May-21 09:01:53

Fortunately those that have been offered the vaccine and have refused are in the minority.
We now know the vacinnes reduce transmission and serious illness
I had absolutely no concerns in being vaccinated and all of my family are now fully done or awaiting their second dose as they are younger

Katie59 Wed 26-May-21 09:31:55

One problem I’m hearing about is employment, companies are insisting the employees be vaccinated to reduce the risk to others.
It may well be “elf and safety” gone mad is it going to be a condition of employment?.

ExD Wed 26-May-21 09:53:48

Exactly what are the reasons for not having it?
We have infertility, non vegan, religion, clots - can anyone list some more?

I'd really like to know all the reasons for refusal, imagined or real.

MayBee70 Wed 26-May-21 09:58:57

Biscuitmuncher

muse what other choice was there but stick to the lockdown laws? But I've a choice about having an untested trial drug, that's made a lot of people very ill for a disease that a lot of people recover from. Also all the vaccines we had as children stopped us from catching the disease, this one doesn't

There are measles outbreaks when the uptake of the measles vaccine is sometimes reduced, quite often due to unfounded scare stories. A certain percentage of children need to have the vaccine to prevent others from getting it. And we forget how dangerous measles can be. How many people have been made ill by the vaccine compared to how many have had it? Do you take paracetamol/aspirin? People can have adverse reactions to them. By your comments I assume you would have ignored lockdown if possible. Many people recover from covid: do you not care about those that have died or those suffering from long covid. Have you not watched any of the reports from India?

Biscuitmuncher Wed 26-May-21 10:01:58

ExD I feel it's been rushed out. It concerns me that the companies that make them have immunity from prosecution. A lot of people have died or been made very ill from the vaccine