Reluctance of the young to be vaccinated?

Whiff there's been no flu this year! Look it up! And we are supposed to believe this nonsense

there's been no flu this year! Look it up

Why do you think that might be, biscuitmuncher?

Witzend

I do wonder about ‘no shows’. My first jab was arranged after a call from the GP. I was told that I’d be contacted in about 12 weeks for the second.

Dh had his first a week before I did, and was again contacted by the Gp for the 2nd, so I was expecting the same about a week later.

Nothing happened, so after another week or so I went to the NHS site to book, even though I’d been told I’d be contacted.

It came up with, ‘You missed your 2nd appointment.’

Er, excuse me, I never had an appointment!
Was able to book for the following day, albeit in a different area a bus ride away, but no problem.

Incidentally that area (a very densely populated part of London SW17) has a high percentage of BAME residents, and the vaccination centre was virtually deserted. I didn’t have to wait even for a minute.

Please don’t anyone tell me it was racist to have found this significant.

It’s not racist to report a factual observation Witzend. Glad you managed to get your second jab.

ExD

You're quite right, I have no evidence about adequate testing or not - just a gut feeling that most other drugs seem (again no evidence - just "seem") to undergo many years of testing before being released.
I am very grateful for it all the same, and was willing to risk a bad reaction to it for the cover it gives.
I had my first ever flu jab this year too.

I think there's been plenty of explanation on this thread now about how the vaccines had more than adequate testing ExD. "Gut feel" is no replacement for actually knowing that all the standard testing has been done and that these vaccines are as safe as any others.

I'm glad you've decided to have it

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Biscuitmuncher
It amazes me how you all blindly believe what you are told, from the most inept leaders

Inept they may be but the benefit of vaccination against Covid 19 has been proved, maybe there are a few people harmed but there are millions that are protected.
Just like any treatment there is a risk of side effects, you have the right to refuse, and suffer the consequences of that, but do they have the right to infect others in a aeroplane or workplace.

Several of the students from my boarding school (overseas) are going tomorrow to be vaccinated. Ages 16 to 19.

My daughter in the UK is desperate to get the vaccine, but there are no locations offering it that she can get to.

I wonder if it’s a myth that young adults are reluctant to be vaccinated after all? It was on our news tonight that they have hit the 50% already for 18-29 year olds, so it may be that they are not more hesitant than older people, and will take up the vaccine when it’s offered..

Whiff why on earth would I say anything nasty about that! I think my perfectly understandable fears doesn't make me a monster

People's fears can be quite irrational, can't they?

A builder working here said he only had the vaccine because he wants to holiday abroad. He's had some mild side effects and hopes there's no 'long term damage' from the jab.

Strange - as the chances of damage from Covid are so very much greater - and, of course, he drives daily, despite the dangers of doing so.

My teenage DGC (living overseas) have been pleased to have the vaccination. The youngest is 14.

My 29 year old daughter in law can’t wait, she is logging in every day to see if she can, my son who is slightly older has had his

Who are the ‘some have suggested ‘ are they informed or just making noise. I was behind someone in a shop the other day who informed the whole shop he wouldn’t be having the vaccination as his mate down the pub said it was bad for you and worse than getting COVID itself ( his mate down the pub obviously wasn’t Professor Van Damn )

I had my second jab at a big centre yesterday and was the oldest by many years, most were fit and healthy 30s. It made me realise what a rough ride they have had thus far, staying home to protect mainly the elderly. I guess most younger people feel this is their time and the jab means they can now be free to travel etc.
Those who decline have been factored into the equation anyway, so they will do as they please. I'm done with wanting to criticise

Collecting our grandchildren from school one of the dads said “ I don’t need a vaccine God protects me”. I would guess he’s about 25ish.

My siblings and I had the mmr vaccine as children and both my siblings caught measles & the one has been left with ongoing issues that have affected their old age. (we all had chicken pox as well 2 of us twice!) But had we not been vaccinated then things could have been far worse and one of us may not have made it to old age. Vaccines don't always stop you getting the illness but can't limit its affect on you at the time and long term. I've had both my vacs and so have my kids who are in their 20's

I’m despairing of all this. I had my first vaccine over 12 weeks ago, being in the clinically extremely vulnerable group, but also terrified of needles. Now the emphasis seems to have changed. Apparently the nurses forgot to come back to me because they are busy visiting local colleges to persuade the young to come forward. My Med Centre says I might get a phone call next week if they have time in between vaccinating and promoting it to the younger people.

My daughter and partner are refusing the vaccine, even though her own Dad and I have been shielding as he is ECV. I am sad that they believe all the nonsense on Facebook etc, they are late 30s. We are desperate to see our grandchildren but just too risky.

Oh yes hadn’t thought of Botox. Surely this must be much more harmful?!

Tooyoungytobeagrandma

My siblings and I had the mmr vaccine as children and both my siblings caught measles & the one has been left with ongoing issues that have affected their old age. (we all had chicken pox as well 2 of us twice!) But had we not been vaccinated then things could have been far worse and one of us may not have made it to old age. Vaccines don't always stop you getting the illness but can't limit its affect on you at the time and long term. I've had both my vacs and so have my kids who are in their 20's

I thought the MMR vaccine was introduced in 1988. I've only just reached old (ie pension) age, so I don't understand how you all had the MMR vaccine as children.

As a child, I had measles, mumps and rubella. I developed measles encephalitis after measles.

Just a plea here for choice. There's a big take up of the vaccines so why be so cross with biscuit and others.

There are people in my own wider family (30s and 40s) who won't be vaccinated and although I think its the wrong choice they do have the right to make it.

Who is protecting who isn't the point if the take-up is good.

Also, not everyone is happy with anti-malaria pills Whiff, and some people wouldn't want vaccinations in order to travel and would rather adjust their lives and travel plans accordingly.

Please let's not bully those who are currently hostile.

Amberone—- it’s because of a vaccine they thankfully should have had no experience of these horrid diseases.

I don't know if young people are reluctant to have the vaccine. The ones that I know have already had it (because they live in the US, where the rules are different) or are going to have it. On the other hand, I have just seen on the news English football fans in Portugal. Many of them are clearly too young to be vaccinated. All crammed together and not a mask in sight. Maybe they do think that they are immortal.

The only person I know who is a vaccine refuser is my sister-in-law, who practises kinesiology and is also a very religious vegan. Her husband says "she has studied alternative therapies and she knows more than we do about what's in the vaccines." I find it hard to believe that a pensioner with no scientific background has inside information about newly developed vaccines. Her son is a doctor and has tried to persuade her but she is unconvinced. I can't help feeling that she is more at risk than most, anyway, as she is almost totally blind and must find it difficult to do things like social distancing. However, it's her choice.

My beautician who is vegan has refused to be vaccinated. If she wasn't so good at her job I think I would find a new beautician. Her PPI is excellent (way more than most) .

Here it is not particularly the young who are unwilling to be vaccinated.

I know people of my own age (69) who refuse on the grounds that "they don't know what the vaccine will do to their body" or "I'm never ill anyway, so I don't need it"

The first time I encountered the first of these reasons? excuses? I said mildly that that is true, but we do know what the infection might do to us, so to me it seemed more sensible to have the vaccination than not.

Since then I have tried to ask what people fear, but don't really get an answer.

If anyone asks me, I am happy to tell them that I have had no ill-effects from the vaccinations, but of course, I cannot know at this stage whether there will be any long-term side effects.

There have always been people who were opposed to vaccinations. I had a class-mate at school who was not allowed to have any of the vaccinations we others had. Her parents were not alone in holding that opinion either.

I imagine a great number of those who say just now that they won't be vaccinated will change their minds when or if they discover that they cannot go abroad by plane without a valid vaccination certificate and that the quick tests cost money in most of the countries they might want to spend their holidays in and have to be renewed after 72 hours.