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Reluctance of the young to be vaccinated?

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Santana Tue 25-May-21 16:01:24

I asked the 19 year old washing my hair at the hairdresser's whether she would have the vaccine when offered. She said although she was reluctant to put something unknown into her body, she guessed she would have to in order to go clubbing or travel.
I agreed that I could see her point, but I expect the vaccines she had as a baby and child could have saved her life.
It must be very difficult for the young to decide.
We did laugh when I said I was going clubbing as I had both my vaccinations!
Won't risk the nose stud or tattoos though. Far to painful.

Paperbackwriter Sat 29-May-21 13:38:18

Biscuitmuncher

ExD I feel it's been rushed out. It concerns me that the companies that make them have immunity from prosecution. A lot of people have died or been made very ill from the vaccine

A lot of people have died from the vaccine? Really? I think very few, proportionally. As for being 'made very ill' - there are sometimes mild side effects, a few flu-like symptoms. One person's 'very ill' is most people's "I took a paracetamol, felt fine". The clots, for example - you are far more likely to die from thrombotic blood clots by being on the pill or even flying.

The vaccine wasn't 'rushed out' either. It was based on plenty of previously made vaccine experience.

Anyway - your decision is your own, I guess. My sister-in-law lives with a fervent anti-vaxxer who claims all vaccines are 'bad science' and he spends many hours a day on the computer believing all sorts of conspiracy theories. What I can't forgive, with him is that even though the sis-in-law had her first vaccine, she's now been persuaded not to have the second one. She is 74 and vulnerable. He is 55 and not.

Paperbackwriter Sat 29-May-21 13:46:51

Biscuitmuncher

It amazes me how you all blindly believe what you are told, from the most inept leaders

So - do tell us where you are getting your information then, please, so we too can be more fully informed. It surely can't be a secret, if YOU are privy to it?

Namsnanny Sat 29-May-21 13:50:58

Just saw a photo of mile long queues in London of mainly young Chinese people desperate to get their jabs.

I was glad for them and everyone else that so many of them had decided to be vaccinated.

From what I've read in Bradford the majority of hospitalised Covid cases are people with no vaccination history or who have had just one injection.

I hope more people come forward.

ExD Sat 29-May-21 13:54:35

If it was the same picture I saw, I was concerned that there was no attempt to socially distance.

Namsnanny Sat 29-May-21 13:56:24

I dont think I'm blind Biscuitmuncher Just prefer, on balance to believe in credible science.

Namsnanny Sat 29-May-21 13:58:24

Well you're right there ExD . I wondered what was going through their minds!

SuRu Sat 29-May-21 14:08:56

My daughter (35) is expecting a baby in the Autumn. Until recently, the advice was that expectant mothers shouldn't be vaccinated. This has now changed and they are now allowed to have Pfizer or Moderna. She was absolutely delighted to have hers last Thursday.

Harmonypuss Sat 29-May-21 14:28:46

We're in Birmingham, my 2 sons are 32 and 24 but with different GP practices, the younger one gets his first jab on Thursday but the elder is still waiting to be invited and pretty annoyed that his younger brother is getting his before him.

Penygirl Sat 29-May-21 14:31:28

My daughter (31) can’t wait for hers. She’s a teacher and very frustrated that in our area they skipped the 30-40 age group to give the Pfizer jab to the younger ones. Apparently supply of Pfizer is low at the moment.

Bluecat Sat 29-May-21 15:06:04

My DD, who is a scientist, keeps trying to explain to anti-vaxxers that there's no mystery about the quick development of the vaccines. For a start, research usually has to wait for approval and funding before it can proceed, and that can take months or even years. Also, most scientists take great care to guard their research until they can publish, because other scientists can and do present unpublished research as their own. However, recognising the gravity of the pandemic, they have freely shared a lot of information. My DD says that it's very unusual and will have undoubtedly speeded things up.

All medicines, including vaccines, carry risks. You have to weigh them up against the risks of the disease. My other DD knew someone who died as a blood clot after the Astra Zeneca vaccine. They were friends when their kids were at a mum and toddlers group. Ironically, in view of the age warnings, the woman who died was one of the older mums. She was 43 when she died. Her family were obviously devastated but they spoke out to urge people to keep getting vaccinated. They recognised that what happened to their loved one was very rare and that the risks of Covid-19 were much greater. Very brave and public-spirited of them, I thought.

All I would say is that the poor woman seems to have been repeatedly fobbed off by the GP and by A&E, until someone recognised how ill she was. I don't know if she could have been saved if they had acted sooner.

naughtynanny Sat 29-May-21 15:42:45

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Anniecupcake18 Sat 29-May-21 15:49:16

My son died from a cerebral blood clot and thrombocytopenia in January caused by the AZ vaccine, he was only 32. I can understand vaccine hesitancy in the young.

Alegrias1 Sat 29-May-21 16:00:03

Your post is insulting, wrong and dangerous naughtynanny. Not one piece of truth in the whole thing. Its not worth trying to correct every point you get wrong, it would take too long.

The only person who should be ashamed is you, posting such a thing in an environment where people like Anniecupcake18 are trying to live with the most awful situations.

I was so sorry to read your post Anniecupcake18, it must be so hard for you. flowers

Namsnanny Sat 29-May-21 16:11:37

Well said Alegrias Thank you.

Sorry to hear about your son Anniecupcake18.

NotSpaghetti Sat 29-May-21 16:15:57

Nannan2, Bluecat and others anti-vaxers" is a very negative term in today's society.

I don't think it's necessarily applicable to people refusing just the Covid vaccine. Surely you have to be anti-vaccination in general really to be called this at all? It's still not very nice.

I am personally of the opinion we are better off having this vaccine but I am also pro choice. People are free to choose in this country so we should respect that, even if it seems misguided to others.

HillyN Sat 29-May-21 16:40:43

Naughtynanny, as I explained, I have done my research through a reliable source, NOT social media. You, on the other hand, seem not to understand the mathematics of statistics and probability, yet alone what the word vaccine means. If I were you I would leave it to the experts to ensure our safety.
Of course you have the right to choose not to have the vaccine but I would be more ashamed of congregating en masse with a million unmasked superspreaders than encouraging my children and grandchildren to get vaccinated.

Alioop Sat 29-May-21 16:53:08

Anniecupcake18 flowersflowers

icanhandthemback Sat 29-May-21 17:45:27

People should be able to make up their own minds about the vaccine. Personally, I have had my 2 doses and I will be advising my adult kids to do the same. My daughter has just had the Moderna vaccine, my son has had the AZ and my older 2 sons had the Pfizer. Apart from feeling a bit rough for a few days, we have all survived and feel better for it.
If it turns out that the efficacy is not so good if there isn't a high enough take up, then I would want there to be controls in place so that the majority of the populations were protected. However, I don't want there to be an us and them situation if there doesn't need to be. With the MMR, I was very worried about the supposed link with Autism so my only child who was supposed to be vaccinated at a very young age, was held back until he was nearing secondary school age. He had lots of intolerances and it seemed to be a sensible thing to do at the time. I would not have liked to be forced to have my son vaccinated. As there has turned out to be a higher incidence of autism in our family than we realised, I am glad I made that decision otherwise I would never have known what had caused it had my son turned out to be ASD too.

songstress60 Sat 29-May-21 17:49:36

If you are a health worker you should be MADE to have the vaccine. It is the only way to get back to normal. With the Indian variant it looks like we are going to have another lockdown which is bad for the economy.

ChrisConary Sat 29-May-21 17:54:28

My Kids, in their early 30's have been vaccinated. It is their father and I who are reluctant. We plan to wait until the vaccines are no longer experimental, until they have 2 to 4 years of data on the outcome. I have had vaccines for many things, having travelled far. I am not an anti-vaxxer. On the other hand, I have never had vaccines for measles, mumps, reubella or chicken pox. I had those viruses and have lifetime immunity. I see no point in taking a vaccine for a virus to which I may already have immunity.

kjmpde Sat 29-May-21 18:18:25

the government gives out warnings about the possibility of blood clots with the AZ vaccine so I can understand the reluctance as how do they know if the others are safe for their age group?

foxie48 Sat 29-May-21 18:35:11

Unfortunately there are people who don't seem to understand the concept of risk. Pretty much everything we do, every day of our lives has an element of risk. Last year one of my friends who was in her early 50's fell down the stairs and died. It was a tragedy but I still use the stairs. Several people I know have died following riding accidents but I still ride. I've also known people who have died in car accidents but I still drive and am driven by other people. Read the blurb that comes with any medicine and there will always be the rare chance of a very serious side effect. This is the same for Covid vaccinations, the AZ vaccine carries a very small risk of blood clots but it is far less than the risk carried by Covid 19.

Imavinhoops73 Sat 29-May-21 18:35:38

Anniecupcake18
So sorry for your loss

I 've refused the vaccine and I'm nearly 50.
My perfectly healthy mum developed a blood clot within 3 days of having the A Z. She's lucky to have survived.

Maggiemaybe Sat 29-May-21 18:43:21

I wish there was a like button, foxie48. Well said.

Casdon Sat 29-May-21 18:50:39

As long as you realise you have a one in about 500 chance of dying of coronavirus at age 50 compared with a better than one in 250, 000 chance of dying from the vaccine, Imavinhoops73, it’s your choice. Most of us aren’t prepared to take the risk, particularly as it’s not just the risk of death, it’s the risk of long term complications from the disease.