Reluctance of the young to be vaccinated?

When the vaccine first came out, it was to protect the vulnerable. Now they are pumping it into everyone! Young people who are more at risk to the vaccine than they are to covid

What is the evidence for that Biscuitmuncher?

Where are these statistics from please Casdon?

Here’s the age calculation Not Spaghetti.
www.webmd.com/lung/news/20210126/how-dangerous-is-coronavirus-to-the-middle-aged

My forty year old daughter didn’t seem to be in any hurry to get hers.
I nagged her and she had it last week.
I also can’t understand the reticence.

I think it’s mainly ignorance.

Why do people think this vaccine in particular would cause fertility problems? None of the other vaccines that we all had as children caused infertility, so why this one ?
Surely it’s made with the same ‘base’ as lots of other vaccines just tweaked for covid .

Biscuitmuncher

When the vaccine first came out, it was to protect the vulnerable. Now they are pumping it into everyone! Young people who are more at risk to the vaccine than they are to covid

I'm afraid that is not true. The problem with having unvaccinated people is that even if they don't become very ill they allow the virus to mutate. It is possible that we may get a variant that is able to infect vaccinated people and also be dangerous to younger people. If this happens, then we are back to the beginning with a potentially more lethal virus. ATM the best reason for younger people being vaccinated is to prevent this happening. TBH I have not seen any evidence that younger people are more at risk of the vaccine than they are of Covid but I'd be interested to see your evidence. As I said in an earlier post, my doctor daughter has seen many younger patients with Covid die but she has seen no-one die as a result of the vaccination because it is thankfully, very rare.

When you think of some of the things that the younger generation condone 'putting into/inside their bodies' - it makes you laugh when they try to use THAT argument against the Covid Vaccine! Especially when there's 'all kinds of stuff' being consumed in the pursuit of fun, beauty, kicks.

C'mon you lot - wake up and see what's gone on around you for the past 18mths!

And here’s the risk related to the vaccine - there are lots of articles, but not one definitive answer amalgamating for all vaccines that I could find, so this is AZ which is the one with the highest number of reported deaths per million.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/explainers-56665396

Casdon

Here’s the age calculation Not Spaghetti.
www.webmd.com/lung/news/20210126/how-dangerous-is-coronavirus-to-the-middle-aged

I can't find it there, is it the right link Casdon?

It's this that I'm interested in Casdon:

you have a one in about 500 chance of dying of coronavirus at age 50 compared with a better than one in 250, 000 chance of dying from the vaccine

Yes, I got those figures from the articles I copied for you NotSpaghetti.

why is it difficult for the young to decide what to do , no brainer to me , i did not think twice about having mine, i bet some put a lot worse than that in their bodies

Not just the young. I'm 67 now. When it was first put out last year that they were going to get a vaccine I was "no way" It takes so many years to develop a vaccine and I don't believe the but we've been developing it for years b*****t. My son and his girlfriend, both in their 30's are totally against it,my youngest and his wife,in their late 20's are for it. It's all a matter of choice.I choose not,my hub chose yes

I have read and re-read these articles Casdon - I think I'm going mad.
I can't see any calculations for 50year olds at all.
Please help me out!

I did see this though:
Andrew Levin an economics professor at Dartmouth college NH said:
At age 25, 1 in 10,000 will die IF infected with Covid
At 35, 1 in 2,700
At 45, 1 in 800
At 55, 1 in 240
At 65, 1 in 70.

A friend would not tell her son she had had the vaccine, though he must have realised as she was mid 70s , because he doesn't agree with putting "unknown chemicals" in his body but it quite happy to smoke both legal and illegal cigarettes !!

I do think it's a case of calculating the risk.

I always follow my gut feeling when it comes to decisions and do you know what, it's never led my wrong. I would never take a vaccine that was still under trials, not for a million pounds. I've read of far too many nasty deaths and horrible side effects on the government yellow card site, why is none of this ever reported on the bbc news, as yourself that?

What I fear more then anything is not covid, or the vaccine, but the total brainwashing that has been going on. The paid for comments that are appearing everywhere whenever to anyone that dares to question the vaccine. The way doctors that have dared to speak out have been silenced.

I keep asking myself why, why on earth are they so desperate to vaccinate everyone, when the average age of death from covid is 82, so what benefit is there of giving the jab to an 18 year old, unless they have health problems, I can see no benefit what so ever.

Anyway I believe in free choice for all and respect everyone whether they have chose to take the vaccine or not. You will notice I've not personally tagged anyone in this post or had a go at them, so I ask you not to do the same to me, lets be kind to everyone, no matter what their choice.

That post was a lot of effort for your pinkies. I wonder why you bothered!

rosieod1

Not just the young. I'm 67 now. When it was first put out last year that they were going to get a vaccine I was "no way" It takes so many years to develop a vaccine and I don't believe the but we've been developing it for years b*****t. My son and his girlfriend, both in their 30's are totally against it,my youngest and his wife,in their late 20's are for it. It's all a matter of choice.I choose not,my hub chose yes

Why don't you believe that scientists have been working on a similar vaccine for years? I personally know one who has.

Biscuitmuncher

When the vaccine first came out, it was to protect the vulnerable. Now they are pumping it into everyone! Young people who are more at risk to the vaccine than they are to covid

That's nonsense!

Thought I would just confirm that being vegan is not a reason for not taking the vaccine. The Vegan Society is quite clear on this, as with other medications; I am still vegan even though I inject insulin daily!

www.vegansociety.com/news/news/vegan-society-response-covid-19-vaccine

NotSpaghetti I split the difference between the figures for age 45 and age 55 to come up with 1 in 500. So to be more exact, if the death risk is 1 in 880 at age 45, and 1 in 240 at age 55, it’s actually 1 in 460 at age 50, if the rate increases proportionately for each year of age. It’s not definitive of course, and neither is the death risk from vaccination, but based on available data it’s the best approximation I could find. The odds are definitely pro vaccination whatever way you look at it.

I notice a few people are asking about vegans, I agree the vegan society says that the vaccine is fine to take. However the vegans I know who have chosen not to take, did so because the vaccine was tested on animals.

Well thank you Casdon I see you have actually extrapolated.

It's likely to be less than 1 in 450 then I assume as we know the danger increases by age and it isn't even over the ages (see the numbers).

So where is the other figure from?
better than one in 250, 000 chance of dying from the vaccine?