Double Jabber tested positive

That’s what the vaccine does , protects you from getting a very bad dose of Covid-19
My DIL is isolating with a slight cough , she had both jabs , she is a delicate wee soul and is so glad she had the vaccine

I know lots of people who are double jabbed who have had covid. It's as Aggie said.

It has never been claimed that the jab stops you completely from getting it, only that it is less likely, and that if you do get it, it won't be as bad as without the jab. It is still worth having it!

We know that the vaccines don’t give 100% protection. You can still catch the virus but unless you are are immuno-compromised for some reason, your immune system should be able to react well enough to ensure you don’t become seriously ill.

This article, which appeared in The Guardian on 27 June, puts the risk of death from Covid into perspective:

www.theguardian.com/theobserver/commentisfree/2021/jun/27/why-most-people-who-now-die-with-covid-have-been-vaccinated

As far as I am aware, clinical trials to determine whether we shall need a programme of booster jabs are still ongoing.

I know of someone here who is double jabbed and has been tested daily for some time as he is a medic - had a test to be able to fly home and was positive! He has been isolating and having another test this week to see if he can fly back now.
Here they say it takes 3-5 days after contact to come out with Covid so if on day 5 you test negative you are OK.

My DGD was double vaxed because her MS made her vulnerable. However a few weeks ago, she caught Covid. She hasn't been very ill - mainly temperature and fatigue. I hope to see her soon - wish I wasn't 150 miles away.
My GP, when I saw him last week seemed to be sure that the booster programme would be up and running in September.

I don't understand this because I read that the Pfizer vaccine is supposed to be 96% effective and AZ a little bit less. With such a very small percentage window of catching it, why are so many double jabbed getting it? I had the book Vaxxers for my birthday so maybe I'll discover more about this after I've read it.

No vaccine is going to stop Covid particles entering yout nose and mouth grannyrebel7 but the vaccine will have "taught" your immune system to recognise the infection and go to work to eliminate it before it makes you very ill.

I don't know about the book you refer to but reading about and understanding how the immune system works is useful.

So many people get sick and die from this because it's a novel (new) virus that the human immune system is sometimes unable to recognise quickly enough to react to and eliminate

In many cases, when it did react, it went into overdrive causing cytokine storms, attacking healthy tissue and causing multiple organ failure.

That's how we have the strange situation of people who take immuno-suppressant drugs being particularly vulnerable to Covid complications and the same or similar drugs being used to treat Covid patients. It's all about getting the immune system into balance so it reacts but not overreacts - if that makes sense. That's what the vaccine does.

Grannyrebel it’s not 96 % effective of you not getting Covid but 96% that you don’t get very ill or die of it ! That’s my understanding anyway

Lots of double jabbers getting this new variant in my area but as others have said symptoms have been manageable at home and from the people I know there have been no hospitilisations.

I heard on the news they are starting to roll out the Covid booster jab in September. It also said they are using pharmacies rather than surgeries. We can but await further information.

I heard all over 50s will be offered a booster jab this Autumn. I also heard the booster jabs will all be Pfizer because Pfizer is better at preventing illness with the Delta variant. Please correct me if anyone else knows better, but I think that’s what I heard.

My friend was not only double jabbed but also had Covid last year and is only 48 years old. She caught this new variant last month and was quite poorly, ending up in hospital for 24 hrs on oxygen as her breathing was so bad. The consultant said that it was likely that she would have died had she not had her jabs. Ironically they think she caught it while in A&E with her son who had broken his arm at school!

This latest variant is really nasty and very contagious but the vaccination programme is keeping hospitalisation and deaths low. I dread to think what it would have been like if we didn’t have such a high vaccination rate.

I believe there are trials going on to give a different vaccine as a booster. So Pfizer if you had the AZ and presumably the AZ if you had the Pfizer.

We where told sometime ago that even though we have been double jabbed we could still get the delta variant. But we wouldn't be as ill if we hadn't had the jabs. People forget we have been able to have the flu jab for decades but you can still get flu but won't be as ill if we didn't have it.

My son when he was young had the all his measles jabs still got measles.

But it's better to be jabbed than not. But it's still important to wear a mask ,social distance and wash hands. And do lateral flow tests . I do mine every Saturday morning. If I went out everyday I would do then twice a week.

It's important to have the Covid booster and not forgetting the flu jab.

Personally I can't see things getting better until spring. But that's just my opinion.

This seems to be what living with it means. Piers Morgan wrote last week of his Covid infection, he's been double jabbed too. He was quite ill but luckily he has a virologist on speed dial who prescribed anti biotics and steroids, which apparently prevent long Covid. I understand that you can also be asymptomatic and be double jabbed, so plenty of opportunity to pass it on unknowingly. Personally I'm thinking that we have thrown a bucket of water onto the fire, but it's not out yet.

It happens. Both DC had whooping cough and one had measles, despite having all their childhood vaccines. In each case the illness was very mild.

No vaccine is 100% effective and never has been.

Could someone please provide a link to where it states that there will definitely be a booster programme. All I can find is information which says: could be offered, JCVI interim advice, pending further data, may be offered, if a booster programme happens ...

This from: www.gov.uk/government/news/most-vulnerable-could-be-offered-booster-covid-19-vaccines-from-september

The final JCVI advice will be published before September and will take into account the latest epidemiological situation, additional scientific data from trials such as Cov-Boost, real-time surveillance of the effectiveness of the vaccines over time and emerging variants. The final advice could change from the interim advice as further data is analysed.

The government is working closely with the NHS to ensure that if a booster programme happens it can be deployed rapidly from September. Further details will be set out in due course.

I have had two vaccinations. Didn't particularly want to, but did. Not worrying about going out and about at all. To be honest I have never worried anyway. The government along with the media have hyped up 'covid' to an alarming state, While in my opinion and indeed many scientists it has been grossly exaggerated.

I know two double jabbed people who went down with Covid. Both were very poorly and couldn’t get out of bed for a week but are ok now. One was in his 50’s and overweight so without the vaccinations he could well have been hospitalised.

Although double jabbed I am still being cautious, keeping distances, sanitising hands and wearing face mask in shops or in crowded outdoor areas. Still not hugging the gc as they have had to isolate on several occasions due to school and nursery cases. Just lovely to see them.

Flexagon, booster trials are taking place at the moment to see if a booster is necessary and effective.

I volunteered to take part in one. Our antibody levels were measured before and after and now we are in the monitoring period.

So nobody can be definite until the results are in.

I’ve had Covid twice. Once before any vaccination and once since having both jabs. The first time was horrible - really ill for ten days and took weeks to get over. The second time was just flu like symptoms. Unpleasant for a couple of days but absolutely nowhere near as bad as the first time. Obviously the vaccines are working as intended. I wouldn’t intentionally put myself in the way of the virus though because it’s pretty obvious that you can get it more than once, so you’re right to be cautious.

Thanks, Peasblossom. That's what I thought.

I'm interested from the perspective of the correlation between when someone was vaccinated and the severity of any post vaccine infection in that person. In other words, if and when the vaccine's efficiency starts to weaken.

The link I posted upthread said the resuts of the trial were due before September so we shall see.