Your idea of stable??

I can’t see it is that hard to wear masks, just politeness. Don’t you have to wear them in shopping centres? Surely you do ?

Yes and mostly, yes.

I was in the local Co-op yesterday, everyone except one young person with a sunflower lanyard was wearing their mask. When I go to my dance class, we all wear masks in the corridors etc and only take them off when we're excercising. Local Indian restaurant the other day, everybody wearing a mask apart from when they were seated.

I'm sure there is some dissention but the expectation is that everybody wears a mask, Ppople who don't are the exception, some will never conform but that doesn't mean we give up entirely.

people!! ...my typing this morning! I need another coffee!

It’s law in Wales, and it is obeyed. There is an issue with holidaymakers from England though, who don’t understand that masks are mandatory, so some ill feeling about it from them. I haven’t heard anybody moaning, people here agree it’s the right thing to do on the whole, and think our government is handling Covid well.

nanna8

I can’t see it is that hard to wear masks, just politeness. Don’t you have to wear them in shopping centres? Surely you do ?

Not in England nanna8.

Mollygo

Alegrias1 Does Scotland have mandatory mask wearing and is it obeyed?

Looked that way when we visited Edinburgh recently but back over the border …no

Depends on where in Wales. Places I’ve been recently whilst visiting relatives, masks wearing was sporadic.

Casdon

It’s law in Wales, and it is obeyed. There is an issue with holidaymakers from England though, who don’t understand that masks are mandatory, so some ill feeling about it from them. I haven’t heard anybody moaning, people here agree it’s the right thing to do on the whole, and think our government is handling Covid well.

I’m English and I would have happily worn a mask if I’d visited Wales Casdon. However I realise that’s because I already wear a mask inside buildings anyway. I’m astonished that English people have the brass nerve to complain about wearing a mask when visiting another country where it is mandatory. When in Rome….. and all that. How on earth have we managed to produce so many entitled and rude people in England?

I always wear a mask when I leave the house, it has become second nature for me but many people don’t and it makes me angry if I am in a shop and someone comes in not wearing one, especially small shops. Must say we are in Wales about three times a week and the law is obeyed, in fact a friend of ours forgot his and got chucked out the shop.

Must say we are in Wales about three times a week and the law is obeyed, in fact a friend of ours forgot his and got chucked out the shop.

I'm not in shops very often but I have seen a few people not wearing masks in shops and haven't seen anyone chucked out yet - I'll keep a look out ?, could add a bit of excitement to a shopping trip!

Our relatives from England who recently holidayed in Wales were very happy to notice there was more mask wearing than at home.

My impression is that school vaccination of 12-15 yr olds is slow for organisational reasons rather than parental or teenager reluctance. Scottish system much better, but are the centres for school-age also doing the booster jabs?

It really surprises me that by the sounds of it mask wearing was only sporadic where you visited in Wales Mollygo, everybody seems to comply where I am, and people do get turned away from shops if they go in without. The supermarkets aren’t so good, because they don’t police the doors, but I’ve seen other customers telling people off for not wearing one on a number of occasions. It definitely feels much safer than when I visit family in the Midlands, people don’t seem to socially distance either, never mind wear masks.

winterwhite

My impression is that school vaccination of 12-15 yr olds is slow for organisational reasons rather than parental or teenager reluctance. Scottish system much better, but are the centres for school-age also doing the booster jabs?

It isn’t being helped by the fact the so many schoolchildren (eg my grandson) can’t have their vaccine because they have covid. Something that could have been avoided if we’d followed other countries and vaccinated them in the holidays.

My grandchildrens' school is over-run with infection, huge numbers of children have tested positive and the 12-15 year olds have not yet been given the opportunity to be jabbed.

I’m puzzled about what has happened to the 12-15 age group vaccines. It was announced that children of this age were to be offered vaccinations at the beginning of September, and yet here we are at the end of October and judging from a number of Gransnetters who have said that their grandchildren haven’t yet been offered a vaccine, it seems that not many children have been offered the vaccine. I’m wondering why not?

maddyone- why indeed. It seems that schools are really struggling at the moment with education being disrupted and staff in some areas at the end of their tether. www.theguardian.com/world/2021/oct/22/english-schools-struggling-to-cope-as-covid-wreaks-havoc
I'm also wondering why this isn't a major news issue with the permanent damage that is now being inflicted. Why are people so accepting??

I think that staffing is the issue. Because the 12 - 15s programme is running at the same time as the covid boosters and flu vaccinations, there just aren't enough vaccinators available. Private schools are getting through the pupils better because they often have a resident nurse on the staff list.

Johnson says today that the current infection rate is not outside of the ‘figures that were predicted’.Can someone tell me when we were told that 50,000 people a day was predicted other than in a worst case scenario way? Surely he can’t be lying. Again.

I’ve just heard tonight that a couple we know quite well are both poorly with Covid. They managed to escape the virus till now, but they chose to go on a cruise around Britain. To be honest I can’t think of a holiday where a person would be more likely to get Covid. Another friend and her husband got Covid recently and they escaped first time round too. Both couples were vaccinated twice, three of them with AZ, one of them with Pfizer.
My daughter, currently working in New Zealand, has warned us seriously tonight of the dangers again. The last time she did that was at the beginning in March 2020. She’s a GP and she reads all the relevant directives from government in the UK as well as New Zealand as she wants to keep abreast of what’s going on here for their return (if they do return.) She also reads a lot of the GP forums and is aware of the feelings of GPs in Britain at the moment. However the main thing is that she’s been warning us is to take great care, with things as they are the moment.

What’s so frustrating is that we’ve been so careful for 20 months now. Haven’t seen the family, have met up with no one indoors. Haven’t been shopping or to the cinema etc etc All because we thought the more careful we were the sooner we could start seeing the family again and live a normal life. And now I feel that the goalposts have been moved yet again. SAGE haven’t ruled out the possibility of new variants either. Is there ever going to be an end to all this? I don’t understand these cruises round the coast. Not only are people in a confined space but they then stop off at different places, possibly pick up the virus and infect people at the next port of call.

it seems that not many children have been offered the vaccine. I’m wondering why not?

Because so many are off school either with Covid or other ailments and waiting for test results, so I have understand around here.

Stable? I think the stable door was open, the horse has bolted and the government didn't notice.

Understood

I know Maybee, I used to love cruises, and we were lucky enough to explore some far flung places through cruising, but I wouldn’t even think of going on a cruise now. We’ve been pretty careful, but not as careful as you Maybee. We’ve seen our family when it was allowed, we’ve eaten out too, but eating out will have to stop till next summer I think, unless the numbers drop We’ve used rentals for holidays, and I’ve chosen rentals that were not in crowded places or big blocks, just individual cottages or houses that were not in towns. We’ve just returned from the Isle of Wight and we had a lovely little cottage to stay in, but the numbers of people without masks on the ferry both amazed and frightened me. They seem to have forgotten there is any Covid.

Stable. I think the stable door was open, and the horse has bolted and the government didn’t notice.

I think you’re right Callistemon. I’m weary of it to be honest, but I know we’ve got to start being extra vigilant again.