Your idea of stable??

Casdon some of that may be because PCR testing for part of Wales was sent to the now discredited Immensa Lab.
SE Wales, bordering areas of Gloucestershire, Bristol, Somerset, BANES, all have soaring case numbers as people unwittingly spread the virus having been told their tests were negative.

Every region in England showing an increase in covid hospital patients.

I must admit, that as numbers rise, I am wearing my mask in more situations.

We should all be mature enough by now to know when we should tighten our procedures without waiting for someone to tell us to do it. In the same way, when figures were low I wore my mask much less.

I am just astonished that not many people are that bothered or interested in the PCR testing scandal and its part in the increase in Covid numbers.

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/masks-do-reduce-wearers-chances-of-catching-covid-svlcjnxk0
Wearing a facemask does protect the wearer.

It’s puzzling why Wales and Scotland covid numbers are high. Perhaps people are ignoring the rules? We see it all the time on TFL where only approx 20% are bothering to wear a mask despite Sadiq Khan’s rules. Unfortunately he can’t make it legal because of BJ’s “ Freedom Day”.

Javid saying we could have 100,000 cases a day this winter. Well what a surprise.

Thank you for that Juicywords. I’ve always thought that a face mask must do something to protect the wearer, and I’ve never bought into the whole ‘it only protects others’ idea. Obviously if everyone wore a mask it would work reasonably well. To be honest I’m sick of seeing people in shops not wearing masks. They’re either stupid or selfish in my opinion. Hard words, but Covid is a hard disease.

I think Callistemon is right about the positive test errors affecting the numbers in Wales, the other big factor has been the return to school before children were vaccinated. Until the last two weeks, the majority of cases were in children. The profile here has changed recently though, it’s now high in all age groups up to 60, and rising in older people too.

In France if someone isn’t wearing a mask a gendarme will “have a word”. And they have a vaccine passport (in a nation of vaccine sceptics). In the UK people just do whatever they want and nobody will challenge non-mask wearers. It frustrates me as well Maddyone.

The question was put to the Health Secretary today that parliament wasn’t setting an example by wearing masks but as usual it wasn’t pointed out that it was only the Conservative part of parliament that was mostly mask free. It’s also been pointed out on Facebook that the PM is unlikely to impose any sort of lockdown until after COP26 because he doesn’t want to jeopardise it.

I think you mean in England Juicywords? The rest of us do still have to wear masks. We also have vaccine passports, although they aren’t required at the moment in pubs and restaurants here in Wales, only for larger events.

In France you cannot board a train without wearing a mask AND having proof of double jabs or recent negative test.

This is absolutely disgraceful and so worrying, Johnson just never learns he is always doing things to late, lockdown, masks, testing etc. and he is still doing it. It’s all very well saying people should take responsibility but we know people don’t so I am afraid it is up to our incompetent leader to make a decision which he seems incapable of. Doing.

It is hard to imagine how the UK could ever have had a more corrupt, incompentent government at a time when we needed competence and incorruptibility.

varian

In France you cannot board a train without wearing a mask AND having proof of double jabs or recent negative test.

I would be delighted if this was the case in the whole of the UK.

Am just watching on the ITV news how Portugal has vaccinated 85% of the population 12 years and over, way ahead of the UK. Infection rates are 10 times lower than ours. Yet the PM is still banging on about our world beating vaccine rollout. We may have been quick of the mark but are now lagging behind other countries. What happened?

Obviously some devotees of the Labour Party missed / chose not to see the lack of masks at the Labour Party conference.

covid.joinzoe.com/post/why-still-wear-masks-covid
More evidence for face masks. Study shows that wearing one both reduces your risk of catching Covid or passing it on to others.

It's been known since the start of the pandemic that masks have a role to play in reducing transmission. It's just one of the many things that could be done to reduce the number of infections. It's really staggering that we are starting winter with almost 50000 daily infections with a government that would like us all to think that's it under control when it quite plainly is not. I know that we are testing more but our excess death rates are not good either. Last time I looked we were sitting between Egypt and Georgia.

MerylStreep

Obviously some devotees of the Labour Party missed / chose not to see the lack of masks at the Labour Party conference.

Anyone who ever watches PM 's question time must see that most Tory MPs do not wear masks but almost a;ll of the the more responsible opposition MPs do.

MerylStreep do you think two wrongs make a right? It was irresponsible of both Labour and Tory parties for members not to wear masks at party conference because they should be setting an example, but that is not the issue is it?

MerylStreep

Obviously some devotees of the Labour Party missed / chose not to see the lack of masks at the Labour Party conference.

No. That hasn’t gone unnoticed. I, personally didn’t feel that the conferences shouldn’t have gone ahead during a pandemic. However, the question put to the Health Minister today was regarding mask wearing in parliament and that is what I was referring to. So what is your opinion about the fact that the Conservatives do not, in general, wear masks in parliament but the opposition benches, in general, wear them? And can you give a reason for that other than the government wanting the general public to think the pandemic no longer exists.

The incidence of covid in our area has more that doubled in the last week.

Juicywords

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/masks-do-reduce-wearers-chances-of-catching-covid-svlcjnxk0
Wearing a facemask does protect the wearer.

It’s puzzling why Wales and Scotland covid numbers are high. Perhaps people are ignoring the rules? We see it all the time on TFL where only approx 20% are bothering to wear a mask despite Sadiq Khan’s rules. Unfortunately he can’t make it legal because of BJ’s “ Freedom Day”.

No!
Rules are stricter in Wales.

Cases are very high because a lot of Welsh and SW England PCR tests went to that laboratory which sent out wrong results!!

People, including school pupils, then carried on going to work and school.

SW England has the highest increase of cases in the country. Cases in Wales have gone up too.

It is not due to people ignoring the rules- it is due to the Government awarding a contract to a useless laboratory, set up without accreditation and controls.
Who staffed this laboratory? Where did they suddenly find scientists to work there? Were they even scientists? Had they got a clue?

These cases discovered may not be the only ones.

Bangs head against wall in frustration.

Approx. numbers from Worldometer:-

UK Population: 67,000,000 (100%)
Cases: 8,600,000 (10% of pop)
Deaths: 139,000 (0.2% pop)