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Christmas party at Downing Street last year

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varian Fri 03-Dec-21 11:31:35

Families who lost loved ones during the pandemic have said they are "sickened" by a No 10 Christmas party held during last year's Covid restrictions.

The party took place on 18 December, with a source telling the BBC "several dozen" people attended.

But the Covid restrictions operating at the time banned such events.

Boris Johnson - who was not at the party - said no Covid rules were broken, but No 10 has refused to explain how party-goers complied.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-59505975

theworriedwell Fri 03-Dec-21 23:21:10

JaneJudge

maybe the cat organised it

It probably is the brains of the organisation.

MissAdventure Fri 03-Dec-21 23:21:27

grin

Calistemon Fri 03-Dec-21 23:27:21

JaneJudge

maybe the cat organised it

Or Dilyn?
We don't even know if he invited the cat.
I wouldn't.

theworriedwell Fri 03-Dec-21 23:37:22

I feel that cat's would be better at organising a party. I love dogs but organisation? No not their strong point.

Calistemon Fri 03-Dec-21 23:40:11

theworriedwell

I feel that cat's would be better at organising a party. I love dogs but organisation? No not their strong point.

? Woof

Lucca Sat 04-Dec-21 06:20:14

Germanshepherdsmum

I wasn’t aware that a building was capable of doing anything.

Oh dear. ‘Staff working at no 10”.
As I said before, did you watch the bbc news clip ?

Germanshepherdsmum Sat 04-Dec-21 09:12:23

Really not interested Lucca. I don’t give a toss if they had an office do, even though like many I didn’t get to see any of my family last Christmas. Doesn’t bother me in the slightest. It seems this is the best rabbit Starmer can pull out of his hat when there are things happening today that all parties should concentrate on.

Galaxy Sat 04-Dec-21 09:16:22

I think its possible to think about a number of things, so I can think about this issue and also think about the new variant, there isnt a limit on the issues we can consider. It must be hard to keep track of all these rules though, time limits on concern, limit on numbers of concerns and so on.

Alegrias1 Sat 04-Dec-21 09:16:25

We're not interested in the truth here, only interested in using things to get at Starmer. We're certainly not interested in anything that might be construed as the party of government and their officials misusing their power while the rest of the country suffered.

Fingers in ears, lalalalala

Germanshepherdsmum Sat 04-Dec-21 09:25:43

Makes a change from getting at Johnson Alegrias. If a party was held it had zero effect on the rest of us. If this is the best the Opposition can do it shows how pathetic and ineffectual they are.

Alegrias1 Sat 04-Dec-21 09:34:26

If a party was held it had zero effect on the rest of us.

Why do you think we had restrictions at all GSM? If parties had zero affect on the rest of us? Is the interior of Number 10 a zone where the covid infections don't happen?

Why don't you find one of the posts complaining about people having a wedding and tell them it doesn't matter because it doesn't have any effect on the rest of us?

Let alone the fact that they were breaking the rules which had just been set up by their boss 2 days previously. But you won't know that because you won't watch the video.

How ridiculous.

Germanshepherdsmum Sat 04-Dec-21 09:40:33

I haven’t bothered to watch it because I’m just not interested. It’s not something that would change the way I vote.

Alegrias1 Sat 04-Dec-21 09:47:15

And I guess that's how we've ended up in this mess, isn't it?

People who don't care if the party they vote for is made up of corrupt, lying individuals full of contempt for the people of this country whom they are meant to be serving.

Parsley3 Sat 04-Dec-21 09:55:47

My party right or wrong is one way of thinking, I suppose. I does make life easier when it comes to putting a cross on the ballot paper. Unfortunately for me, I am beginning to question the effectiveness of the party I have supported in the past and am currently politically homeless. However, I can rule out the Conservatives for now, so one less to consider.

Coastpath Sat 04-Dec-21 10:01:24

Even if the Downing Street party didn't break any rules (I know it did, but putting that aside for a moment), those who attended surely are reckless people aren't they? They partied into the night in a packed room and then all went home to their families (In a cab? On public transport?). They genuinely couldn't have known if they were taking Covid into their homes. They couldn't even be bothered to protect their families. Why would we think they would ever care a jot about our best interests?

It seems to me that some Tory voters just don't care at all about the morals, ethics or behaviour of their chosen party. Their vote would be guaranteed despite even the worst kind of reckless, rule breaking behaviour. Behaviour which sickens other people doesn't touch them at all. Why is that? What sort of a person do you have to be not to care? Selfish or just someone who believes that a good end result for you personally always justifies any means?

Do they really not want to look at facts because they don't care about them? Is that the measure of some Tory voters? It seems it is.

I've heard it said many times that Tory voters would vote for a pig if you put a blue rosette on it and thought it a joke until I read this thread.

Germanshepherdsmum Sat 04-Dec-21 10:14:51

There are many good, hardworking people in the Conservative government (as in any other party). It's a party whose policies have looked after my family and I over the years and has rewarded our hard work; we were not born with silver spoons in our mouths. As a result we have a comfortable life and I reward them with my vote. I know only too well that Labour would if they could squeeze me (and anyone who dares to have any savings or investments and an inheritance to leave to their children) until the pips squeak.

Coastpath Sat 04-Dec-21 10:16:37

So is it all about you and money then Germanshepherdmum?

Whitewavemark2 Sat 04-Dec-21 10:23:14

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Germanshepherdsmum Sat 04-Dec-21 10:25:12

For me, yes. I vote for the party which has always looked after me and my family and allowed us to get on in life. The Conservative party has, for us, always been the party of the working man; not Labour. Do you seriously think I would vote for a party whose avowed intent would be to take away what I've worked all my life for? As McDonnell most certainly would have. But I don't have to justify my vote to anyone. Suffragettes fought for women to be able to vote and we all have the luxury of being able to vote and to cast our vote as we choose in a free country.

Anyway, the sun has now come out so I'm off outside and will leave everyone to enjoy picking over the bones. Have a nice day!

Whitewavemark2 Sat 04-Dec-21 10:25:12

Germanshepherdsmum

There are many good, hardworking people in the Conservative government (as in any other party). It's a party whose policies have looked after my family and I over the years and has rewarded our hard work; we were not born with silver spoons in our mouths. As a result we have a comfortable life and I reward them with my vote. I know only too well that Labour would if they could squeeze me (and anyone who dares to have any savings or investments and an inheritance to leave to their children) until the pips squeak.

That is 50 years behind the times. You need to get up up to date.

Calistemon Sat 04-Dec-21 10:29:21

Mistakes have been made, rules have been broken, not just at No 10 last December.

All this is a diversion from what is happening here and now.

There will, we hope, be time for retrospection later but we need to concentrate on what is important right now ie dealing what is happening with the arrival of yet another variant.

Smileless2012 Sat 04-Dec-21 10:29:39

An unpleasant post IMO Coastpath. GSM is entitled to vote as she feels fit as the rest of us are and she doesn't have to justify it to you or anyone else.

Galaxy Sat 04-Dec-21 10:31:54

No and we dont have to justify wanting to talk about this issue.

Coastpath Sat 04-Dec-21 10:36:06

Of course anyone is entitled to vote as they see fit. GSM told us without being asked why she votes the way she does. I did not ask her to justify her position.

I guess where people differ is that some people vote based purely on their own financial situation and some people apply the principle that "When you're not doing so well, you vote for a better life for yourself. If you are doing quite nicely, vote for a better life for others."

Smileless2012 Sat 04-Dec-21 10:40:51

Either scenario maybe the case Coastpath but that doesn't IMO justify your response to GSM.

Has anyone said you do "have to justify wanting to talk about this issue" Galaxy.