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First omicron death

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maddyone Fri 17-Dec-21 10:39:27

Do you think the public should be informed of the vaccination status of the first omicron patient who died? I entirely agree that the patient and his/her family have the right to privacy, but do the public need to know the vaccination status and age of the patient in order to make informed decisions about their actions during this difficult time. By disclosing these details, the family maintain their privacy, but the public would find it easier to assess risk. We don’t yet know how dangerous, or not, the omicron variant is, but surely if the first death was a fully vaccinated 45 year old, it’s very different from an unvaccinated 75 year old. What are your thoughts?

Alegrias1 Sat 18-Dec-21 09:07:08

Somebody rang into a phone in yesterday and claimed to know all about the person. Many of the news sites have run with it. It could be completely made up. Now we are speculating if he caught it at the Post Office.

Tell me again how no-one falls for false news and how what's on the news could never be propaganda?

25Avalon Sat 18-Dec-21 09:10:18

Hmmmm! It was the DM reporting what a caller had claimed on LBC. I didn’t read the headline with the claimed bit properly only the rest of the article. Supposed to be an anti vax conspirator theorist. Who knows? As Mark Twin said “ if you don’t read the newspapers you are uninformed. If you do you are misinformed.”

25Avalon Sat 18-Dec-21 09:10:57

Mark Twain

Alegrias1 Sat 18-Dec-21 09:12:02

Oh, he's a conspiracy theorist now is he?

That's convenient.

In answer to maddyone's OP - this is why we don't need to know.

GrannyLaine Sat 18-Dec-21 09:22:40

@M0nica
Professional Medics are always saying how exasperated by people who are ill because they are overweight/smoke/drink etc etc.
I don't think this is true. This may be their personal view, to which they are entitled. But to declare on national news that one doesn't have much sympathy for those they are caring for is another thing entirely. No one is "getting all up tight" as you put it, but merely observing that it is at odds with the code of professional conduct.

ayse Sat 18-Dec-21 09:24:30

25Avalon

Hmmmm! It was the DM reporting what a caller had claimed on LBC. I didn’t read the headline with the claimed bit properly only the rest of the article. Supposed to be an anti vax conspirator theorist. Who knows? As Mark Twin said “ if you don’t read the newspapers you are uninformed. If you do you are misinformed.”

And that’s the problem. So many rumours abound.

The newspapers are generally sensationalist and do the best they can to sell their product. What they say, may or may not be a version of a truth. I’d agree with Alegrias1 in and early post where fear is being used to try to gain compliance.

Unfortunately, misleading information only makes some even more suspicious and incorrect figures given by government only muddies the situation further.

The same applies to government advice. The now wishy washy advice has lead to ‘sensible’ people cancelling parties etc. and others who are carrying on as normal, ignoring the measures in place. It’s all so inconsistent.

Failure to have forensic public discussions just adds to the confusion and suspicion. It’s all about opinion.

25Avalon Sat 18-Dec-21 10:00:06

Dh always says take what newspapers say with caution. If they are recording an event you have been involved in personally you will see for yourself that it is not the full or even entirely truthful story. If that’s true of something you were involved in then it will be true of everything you read.

M0nica Sat 18-Dec-21 23:02:34

GrannyLaine, I am not obese but members of my family are and I know at least one who avoids going to the doctor because he is fed up with his (not excessive) overweight coming up in every consultation.

You cannot read what doctors are constantly saying in public not to understand why any obese person visiting them just assumes that the doctor is mentally condemning them for their overweight.