Liz Truss has covid…

Nor would Thatcher have allowed the sort of culture that seems to pervade Downing Street now, wwm.

If any of the unmasked people we saw in Marydoll’s photo caught covid from Liz Truss yesterday they have only themselves to blame.

Madame Defarge and her fellow tricoteuses would feel quite at home on todays GN.

Exactly the image I have when I read some GN threads.

Sparklefizz

Boris looked ill at his press conferences following his hospitalisation, and he was noticeably breathless.

Indeed he did Sparklefizz.

I agree with posters who say that any unpleasant comments about illness and potential death are unnecessary, even if they are meant as a joke.

AreWeThereYet

^Madame Defarge and her fellow tricoteuses would feel quite at home on todays GN.^

Exactly the image I have when I read some GN threads.

Don't we all sometimes write a comment in the heat of the moment, (and then live to regret?). Mine are usually something off the wall and crazy, others can be rude or nasty, in this instance the comment went somewhere that shouldn't have been voiced and it sadly misread how we feel about suffering, whoever that might be.
I guess that's how different posters are made, it won't be the first or the last time.

I understand that Truss went to a packed meeting after the HOC and didn't wear a mask there either. My theory is that they are very confident in the level of care they will receive if they get a severe infection. Most of us are less confident in 111.

I was just thinking, in my unusual way, that if we had a parliament full of very very old MPs as in the days of yore, then they might all be succumbing to the virus due to their advanced age. Liz Truss is 40s I believe, Rishi Sunak too, Hancock was, Raab etc. Obviously Boris is a bit older.

I don't think any of us, despite the heat and emotion of the moment, wish anyone ill, but the problem with having a liar in office is that it is difficult to believe anything he or his colleagues say. Many on here have direct experience of covid19, it's symptoms and after effects and find it difficult to comprehend how Johnson could be chatting and eating and drinking less than a month after coming out of intensive care. This does not mean I am criticising the medical staff who cared for him. I would have thought, given his experiences of covid19 he would have been keen to wear a mask and encourage his colleagues to do so as well. Or is mask wearing, like safe distancing and rules about the number of people in your home, only for us, the little people?

Gill I totally agree with your above post.
I just cannot understand Johnson at all. He just doesn’t have behaviours or reactions that I find normal in any sense.
That’s why I don’t trust him. He scares me. Always has done

Gill, I agree with your post. I don't doubt he had Covid, but the transition from ICU to home seemed very quick. My son's MIL was working in Covid ICU for over a year and says that after ICU, patients are then transferred to another ward, once they are out of danger. That's the part I can't comprehend.
I am not doubting the word of staff, anyway they are required to maintain confidentiality, what I do doubt is what is written in the press.
As someone, who had to be intubated after a drug reaction, I certainly didn't feel like talking for days. His recovery was surprisingly speedy.

Agreed Mary

They have thrown the rest of us to the wolves with masks now not mandatory, and people being made to go back to work. If we are expected to risk everything let them do it too.

I'm on GN every day and rarely see anyone who lacks compassion for those who are sick or in need. I read Kali2's posts often and she seems a balanced, kind, clever sort of person who contributes over a wide range of threads constructively. I also read the posts which made her angry last night and see how they could rile an angel.

Johnson's illness is like every aspect of Johnson in that even the most generous spirited, compassionate person is aware that he is the boy who cried wolf.

Last night Kali2 stopped posting saying she didn't want to say something she will regret. It's a pity Johnson doesn't have such self knowledge and restraint.

Maybemaw's comment about anyone showing unadulterated glee about Boris Johnson's baby having covid is just not true and should be retracted.

You said what I was thinking Kali, I don’t see anything wrong with it

maddyone

However ill BJ was, he was ill enough to be be taken to hospital in an ambulance and was in hospital being treated for several days. I had the same experience and it’s not pleasant. Anyone who wishes illness on another person is clearly not a nice person.
The staff of St Thomas’s were utterly professional in their treatment of BJ and all the other patients they were treating at the time.

So Liz Truss got Covid. She could have picked it up anywhere and now no doubt some others in Parliament will get Covid too. I hope that she and any others will recover quickly. Hopefully they’ll all have been vaccinated, both sides of the House, and all others who work there.

The staff of St Thomas’s were utterly professional in their treatment of BJ and all the other patients they were treating at the time.

Thanks maddyone

It's the inference, then and now by certain posters, that it was all a big conspiracy between Johnson and the staff at St Thomas's to hoodwink us into thinking he was very ill. I don't think he had to go on a ventilator as far as I remember from the media reports. That is, indeed, horrendous as we know and requires more time to recover.
I hope the sniggerers don't catch Covid badly, or get a hernia or anything they seem to find amusing.
I don't wish ill-health on anyone.

As someone, who had to be intubated after a drug reaction, I certainly didn't feel like talking for days. His recovery was surprisingly speedy.
He didn't have to be intubated, Marydoll, according to the press reports but was in ICU.

MayBee70

Much as I loathe him I couldn’t sleep when Johnson was in hospital. But I really thought the experience would make him take the pandemic seriously and, at first, that seemed to be the case. But I’m realising more and more that it had no effect on him and he still has no comprehension of what many people have gone through. His inability to wear masks has proved that and it proves that everything starts at the top when you see the government benches still, in the main, maskless. I see that Theresa May, diabetic (as is the speaker), wears one. Out of respect for fellow MP’s that May have health problems they should wear masks.

Yes, you'd think it would have made him more Covid-aware, wouldn't you, MayBee
He has a very gung-ho attitude as if to say "Well, I survived it, thanks to our wonderful NHS, what's all the fuss about".

Oh dear, until reading this thread it hadn't occurred to me that LT really did have a positive test result.
I thought she was hoisting a flag of convenience, either because BJ didn't want anyone to share the honours of pushing Putin back from the brink, or because her supporters didn't want her mixed up in his posturing.

Callistemon21

^As someone, who had to be intubated after a drug reaction, I certainly didn't feel like talking for days. His recovery was surprisingly speedy.^
He didn't have to be intubated, Marydoll, according to the press reports but was in ICU.

I've just checked , Callistemon, I was mistaken. However, I found out that he claimed doctors were considering intubating him, when he suddenly improved.
According to some reports, he was able to continue working, while in ICU. I find it difficult to believe anything written in the press.

It was that private flight " wot done it "----maybe they saved on the air-con.

You take your life in your hands at the best of times when flying, with people coughing and spluttering and sneezing. It never fails on all flights, Covid or not.

According to some reports, he was able to continue working, while in ICU.
no wonder some of his decisions are suspect, Marydoll

I certainly didn't read it as wishing Boris ill but more a comment on the reckless behaviour of most of the Cabinet yesterday going maskless while in very close proximity, indoors, with up to 650 other MPs in a confined space. It is another case of "do as I say - not what I do" - the government have urged "caution" to stay safe from Covid but are not abiding by basic measures to reduce transmission.

I feel most sorry for Boris' baby who had no choice in the matter but was born into a household where a lack of Covid protection through masklessness, partying and heavy drinking with colleagues at their home was the norm.

I can't see that Kali2 or anyone else was wishing illness on anyone. I share the relief expressed that Liz Truss won't be going to deal with the Ukraine crisis in person though.

Presumably if Mr Johnson had managed to speak to President Putin yesterday, he might have made things worse - just ask Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe.

Marydoll

Callistemon21

As someone, who had to be intubated after a drug reaction, I certainly didn't feel like talking for days. His recovery was surprisingly speedy.
He didn't have to be intubated, Marydoll, according to the press reports but was in ICU.

I've just checked , Callistemon, I was mistaken. However, I found out that he claimed doctors were considering intubating him, when he suddenly improved.
According to some reports, he was able to continue working, while in ICU. I find it difficult to believe anything written in the press.

I was of the opinion that they had a ventilator on standby for him. Afterwards he wanted everyone to lose weight and get healthier, having realised his weight had put him in danger. But that, like a lot of his ideas, seems to have been forgotten. He certainly bounced back very quickly given how I’ll he was. Didn’t Cummings say he had to stop him from visiting the Queen when everyone except him thought he was suffering from the virus?