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Western Australia bans unvaccinated parents from visiting their sick children in hospitals

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GrannyGravy13 Tue 01-Feb-22 16:07:07

This is one of the most heartbreaking things I have read/seen the whole duration of Covid.

When children, babies and even younger teenagers are in hospital they need a parent or guardian by their side.

50ShadesofGreyMatter Wed 02-Feb-22 21:51:27

To those of you stating kids are being vaccinated without parental consent can you please provide the evidence for this.

Callistemon21 Wed 02-Feb-22 22:11:30

50ShadesofGreyMatter

To those of you stating kids are being vaccinated without parental consent can you please provide the evidence for this.

Not on social media, no.
But I know it for a fact.

sazz1 Wed 02-Feb-22 22:50:40

This is dreadful as children live with parents so should be able to stay in hospital with them. LFT before entering should be enough.
As vaccinated and unvaccinated can both catch and transmit covid LFT should be for both groups.
BTW to the poster who put about a doctor lying about the TB vaccine. The vaccine for TB is only around 60% effective against catching TB.
Also our flu vaccine is only around 40% effective against flu infection. Told to me by my GP.

Callistemon21 Wed 02-Feb-22 23:18:49

I don't think some posters realise that child patients and their parents may have travelled hundreds of miles, and perhaps been flown in - it's not a case of living reasonably near the hospital as in the UK.
Most children's rooms will have an adult bed in them for a parent or carer.
Children will not be in large multi-bed wards. They will be on their own, even more reason to have a parent or carer with them and that person will not come anywhere near other child patients.

Doodledog Wed 02-Feb-22 23:35:57

*BTW to the poster who put about a doctor lying about the TB vaccine. The vaccine for TB is only around 60% effective against catching TB.
Also our flu vaccine is only around 40% effective against flu infection. Told to me by my GP.*

That would be me, but I'm not sure what I'm supposed to say to that.

'Oh well, in that case it's fine - what's the point in trying to protect vulnerable babies if there is a 40% chance that an unvaccinated person who then came into contact with TB wouldn't be able to shake it off?

or 'If the doctor had had the jab and then come into contact with TB there is a 60% chance that it would have been effective (possibly more, as it was a SHO who was young and fit) and the babies would not have been put at risk'?

In any case, my point was simply that having gone through a nightmare situation because of an unvaccinated person potentially infecting my newborn I am unsympathetic to vaccine refuseniks, particularly when they are around children or other vulnerable people.

maddyone Wed 02-Feb-22 23:52:43

I’m unsympathetic towards vaccine refuseniks whoever they are around.

I’m pleased your baby didn’t suffer TB as a result of being in contact with doctor who developed TB Doodledog. I had two of my three newborns in NICU when they were born, and in both cases they were very ill. Mine weren’t in contact with a medic who had TB, but I totally understand why you felt as you do because I would have felt exactly the same.

With regard to the situation in Australia I think that parents need to be tested regularly and wear full PPE if they are unvaccinated and wish to visit their sick child in hospital. I would only allow visits because of the benefit to the child. I don’t care anything for the parents who have made the selfish choice to be unvaccinated.

nanna8 Thu 03-Feb-22 05:38:21

WA is different. We all know it. A race apart. Sooner or later Corona virus will spread there, just as it did here in Victoria despite our ridiculously harsh measures. Who would have helicopters flying overhead to check if anyone was breaking curfew? We did. Who would be refused entry to a shop or cafe without a vaccination certificate? We did/do. Mind you, a happy medium would be good and I would hate to be under the English jurisdiction of no rules at all.
Don't forget, many in Australia have a threat of deportation hanging over them and that is one of the reason for compliance. Just used to it.

Bambibear Thu 03-Feb-22 08:37:14

I think they mean not allowing the parents in the hospital

Nanny27 Thu 03-Feb-22 09:29:24

All I can say is if it was my child in hospital and I knew I'd have to be vaccinated before i could be with them I would be at the front of that vaccination queue with my sleeve rolled up. There is no way I would put my child through that just to satisfy my own prejudice.

Callistemon21 Thu 03-Feb-22 10:19:29

nanna8

WA is different. We all know it. A race apart. Sooner or later Corona virus will spread there, just as it did here in Victoria despite our ridiculously harsh measures. Who would have helicopters flying overhead to check if anyone was breaking curfew? We did. Who would be refused entry to a shop or cafe without a vaccination certificate? We did/do. Mind you, a happy medium would be good and I would hate to be under the English jurisdiction of no rules at all.
Don't forget, many in Australia have a threat of deportation hanging over them and that is one of the reason for compliance. Just used to it.

Good to get a view from Australia, nanna8

As I said earlier, Australia is not the liberal country so many think it is.

I wonder what some on here would think if they were threatened with arrest by a police officer with a gun for taking off their mask to drink a cup of tea?

Callistemon21 Thu 03-Feb-22 10:20:21

I wonder what some on here would think if they were threatened with arrest by a police officer with a gun for taking off their mask to drink a cup of tea?
and they were double vaccinated too!!

nanna8 Fri 04-Feb-22 12:12:20

You are actually allowed to take masks off once you sit down to eat or drink though. Might be a bit difficult otherwise. It is more relaxed now than it has been because nearly everyone,about 94%, are double vaxxed. Not that that helps, people are still going into intensive care and dying but they carefully avoid saying the vaccinations aren’t actually much good.

Callistemon21 Fri 04-Feb-22 23:37:18

nanna8

You are actually allowed to take masks off once you sit down to eat or drink though. Might be a bit difficult otherwise. It is more relaxed now than it has been because nearly everyone,about 94%, are double vaxxed. Not that that helps, people are still going into intensive care and dying but they carefully avoid saying the vaccinations aren’t actually much good.

Yes!
It's a true story though, not hearsay!