Covid going forward

Marydoll

^I will not have any more vaccinations for COVID, I have always thought they lowered immunity, a recent article in the Lancet supports this theory.^

If that is the case, why I am I as someoneone, who is immunocompromised being constantly asked if my vaccinations are up to date?

I can’t answer that question, my husband is immune suppressed also and like me has only had the 3 vaccines.
As a family we were very cautious as our fit and healthy son in law got a blood clot in each lung after his second vaccine.

I was told at the beginning of the pandemic, there wouldn't be a place for me in ICU, if I caught Covid and that there was a DNR notice on my record! I have a transplant friend, who was also told the same thing.

I did eventually catch Covid from my asymptomatic DGD, but by that time, I had had four vaccinations and was given anti-virals in hospital within twenty four hours, which probably lessened the severity.

Does your DH feel the same about receiving anti virals as he does about vaccinations? I am curious. Of course you don't have to answer this personal question. I will understand.

I am very pro-vaccine and had all my earlier boosters. However, I've had Covid twice, both times within a couple of months of having a booster vaccine. In neither case was it very severe - like a bad cold.

This autumn I was considering whether to get a Covid booster or not and got the flu vaccine first. (My 3 bouts of "real" flu in the past were much worse than my experience of Covid so I consider the flu vaccine important.) I was still thinking about whether to get the Covid booster and commented about it to my local pharmacist. I was surprised when he actually agreed with my decision not to get it! My reasoning was not that it would be harmful (though I found the Lancet article interesting) but that it was probably pointless. It seems that immunity to Covid is very short-lived, much like immunity to colds and to Norovirus (vomiting bug), so whether you're vaccinated or catch Covid, you can get it again after a very short time.

The earlier strains of Covid were much more dangerous than Omicron and its subsequent variations. My opinion is that it has now changed so much from the original that it is just another "common cold". Colds are known to be caused by more than 200 different viruses including coronaviruses (other than Covid), rhinoviruses and RSV (respiratory syncytial virus). And unfortunately there is no vaccine yet against the common cold, though one has been developed against RSV and is being used in some countries.

I wouldn't like my own decision to influence anyone else - my OH got his booster recently.

I think we’re forgetting that there are still thousands of people in hospitals up and down the country who are suffering from Covid.
My daughter contracted Covid whilst she was over here visiting from New Zealand. She was living in our house and with three young children in the house too, it was impossible to isolate. We simply took her youngest child into our bed with us as he had been sleeping in the double bed she was sleeping in and let her sleep alone. She tested positive for four days, three days she stayed in bed as she felt unwell. We told the rest of the family not to visit as there was Covid in the house. My husband and myself had been vaccinated with our boosters about 3/4 weeks before. We didn’t get Covid. Nor did the children. We tested every day but remained Covid free.
Last winter when we were visiting our daughter and children in New Zealand, we stayed in a house where the owner became ill with Covid, and shortly afterwards, the son become ill with Covid too. We had been vaccinated with our boosters about four weeks before and we didn’t get Covid then either.
I was very ill with Covid before I could be vaccinated and I won’t risk getting it by not getting vaccinated now. As far as I am concerned the vaccines worked for us.

Marydoll

I was told at the beginning of the pandemic, there wouldn't be a place for me in ICU, if I caught Covid and that there was a DNR notice on my record! I have a transplant friend, who was also told the same thing.

I did eventually catch Covid from my asymptomatic DGD, but by that time, I had had four vaccinations and was given anti-virals in hospital within twenty four hours, which probably lessened the severity.

Does your DH feel the same about receiving anti virals as he does about vaccinations? I am curious. Of course you don't have to answer this personal question. I will understand.

We have both had the flu vaccine and do so every year, anti virals would be a yes for my husband.

After our son in law’s experience we did a lot of research as did our SIL, he was treated privately at the American Hospital in Wilmslow as the NHS were giving him the wrong advice, they told him he could fly😳.
The American hospital had a very different view on the vaccine from the NHS.

His private cover wouldn’t pay as they stated it was vaccine related and the vaccine was experimental medicine!

It seems to me our friends who have had multiple vaccines and boosters have had more bouts of Covid!

I ve had all the vaccines 6 so far, had Covid twice, neither times was I particularly ill just slightly under par
It’s up to each person to decide what they want
My first brush with Covid was like a bad cold the second even less I wouldn’t even have known I had it if I hadn’t tested, as others in my house had it

Thank you for responding Sago.
I too have done research, because I am allergic to many medications. I refused a certain Covid vaccine and asked for an alternative, because research had shown that the one I was offered wasn't the best for those who are immunosuppressed.
I have had eight vaccinations plus the 'flu one annually and will continue to have them as long as my clinicians advise it, because I trust them.

With the vaccines, as with medication, no two people will react in the same way. You ca never predict the outcome.

growstuff

To my knowledge, I still haven't had Covid. I'm not sure whether to consider myself lucky or whether I should be dreading the inevitable.

We haven't either (to the best of our knowledge). Did have the first two vaccinations without a hiccup. None of our near neighbours had Covid either, at least not before this year when we last discussed it. They've all been vaccinated too.

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growstuff

To my knowledge, I still haven't had Covid. I'm not sure whether to consider myself lucky or whether I should be dreading the inevitable.

We haven't either (to the best of our knowledge). Did have the first two vaccinations without a hiccup. None of our near neighbours had Covid either, at least not before this year when we last discussed it. They've all been vaccinated too.

Some people can be asymptomatic and still infect others. My granddaughter was and infected DH and I.
Unless you test, you may have had Covid, without even knowing it.
It is a bit of a lottery.

I developed a heavy cold on friday and even shoulders really ached.

shocked that a test done today is positive for covid.. really worried!

Dd1 lives abroad now has Covid and feeling dreadful, we have had to cancel our visit to her this week. Very disappointing.
Dd2 is also unwell together with gc.
We have had 6 jabs and hope that might cover us, but no guarantee.

Marydoll

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growstuff

To my knowledge, I still haven't had Covid. I'm not sure whether to consider myself lucky or whether I should be dreading the inevitable.

We haven't either (to the best of our knowledge). Did have the first two vaccinations without a hiccup. None of our near neighbours had Covid either, at least not before this year when we last discussed it. They've all been vaccinated too.

Some people can be asymptomatic and still infect others. My granddaughter was and infected DH and I.
Unless you test, you may have had Covid, without even knowing it.
It is a bit of a lottery.

We do test. Or we did until recently when we ran out of tests. Plus MrA has had his blood tested for antibodies a couple of times for some reason - some sort of NHS survey I think. No one asked for mine 😪

I’ve tested positive today, for the first time. I had my last vaccination 6 weeks ago. I thought it was just a cold, I only tested because I thought I should as I was going out tonight with somebody who is immune compromised. It was a real shock to see the red line on the test. It does make you wonder how many people have had it and just not realised, because these symptoms are so similar to a normal cold.

Marydoll

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growstuff

To my knowledge, I still haven't had Covid. I'm not sure whether to consider myself lucky or whether I should be dreading the inevitable.

We haven't either (to the best of our knowledge). Did have the first two vaccinations without a hiccup. None of our near neighbours had Covid either, at least not before this year when we last discussed it. They've all been vaccinated too.

Some people can be asymptomatic and still infect others. My granddaughter was and infected DH and I.
Unless you test, you may have had Covid, without even knowing it.
It is a bit of a lottery.

I have tested whenever I've felt a bit rough and always been negative. The NHS sends me free test kits as a result of radiotherapy, so I make use of them. That's why I wrote "to the best of my knowledge". If I have had Covid, I didn't have any symptoms at all.

You are very fortunate Growstuff.
I shielded for two years, didn't mix with people, did everything I was asked to do and still caught it.

Marydoll

You are very fortunate Growstuff.
I shielded for two years, didn't mix with people, did everything I was asked to do and still caught it.

Yes, I know. I keep thinking my luck is bound to run out one day, so I panic every time I have so much as a cough or a sniffle and test (which isn't very often).

Marydoll Hopefully you recovered better as a result of vaccines.

Vaccines and anti virals within twenty four hours did I think lessen the severity, I think! It certainly kept me out of hospital!
So I too count my blessings. Fingers crossed for you.

I have a permanent cough and I feel like a leper. Everyone thinks I have Covid!

I’ve had all my shots and have had covid once. I was unwell but not severely. My daughter who is immuno compromised had covid earlier this year, a week before she was due to get her booster. she was extremely unwell and came close to being hospitalised.

Just recovering from first lot of covid. Absolutely floored us both, taking some getting over.

DH is on his second heavy cold since October. The first time we kept testing for covid but now we have run out of test kits and haven't bothered getting any more. He is self isolating but I guess covid is all around us and we will have to get used to living with it, as we do with the occasional bout of flu. A friend is immunocompromised and I will stay away from her for a good few days, until I'm sure I haven't caught whatever DH has.

I had it for the first time in October. Laid me low for two weeks. Horrid. On the balance of probabilities, I go with the lab accident theory.

I have never had COVID. I have seldom had flu. I have had all required vaccinations throughout my life. I guess I am fortunate to have a fairly robust immune system now.

I have had 6 covid vaccines and had covid once Oct 22, my dh has had 6 too, but had Covid twice. .
I know three people who had no vaccines at all and not had Covid. Not yet anyway.

I’ve mentioned this before but my sister decided to not to have the latest jab despite having COPD and other comorbidities. She had a known aortic aneurysm which ruptured when she got Covid from her grandchild. She died instantly from the rupture and had been ill with Covid for some days. She knew she had a AAA due an MRI, many of us do not even know. The post mortem made it clear that Covid is responsible for chemical changes which can cause AAAs to rupture. Please be aware of this, AAA is more common in men.