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Support and ideas for those on low-carb diet

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Mamie Sat 21-Mar-15 16:52:33

This is a thread to provide support for those who are on LCHF diets and in maintenance mode.
We can exchange recipes and ideas and encourage each other when the going gets tough!

Anya Sun 22-Mar-15 15:43:57

Even a syrup butty will turn to fat if not worked off!

jinglbellsfrocks Sun 22-Mar-15 15:46:26

That was just the once! I usually have ham and salad. Like I said, it was that sodding sugar programme made me want sweet stuff. Anyway, it's calories that matter. Energy in to energy out ratio. #exercisebike

granjura Sun 22-Mar-15 15:47:26

Come on Jingl- you are not being fair.

Anya- how can shortcrust pastry be no carb?

The diet is

NO carb, NO sugar, HIGH fat.

rosequartz Sun 22-Mar-15 15:49:42

I think I posted on another thread that I used to follow the advice of nutritionist Adele Davis - and she said that she had helped people who could not lose weight by adding good oils to their diet.
They had been cutting out oils or fat because they are 'fattening' but she said the body retained its own fat if deprived of a dietary source.

However, she died at a relatively young age (I do not know what she died of though).

Anya Sun 22-Mar-15 15:58:33

It can't, that's why I'm asking Merlot to run it through her nutrition thingmy to see how carby it is. My diet is not NO carbs, NO sugar if you see my earlier post. Each of us is following a slightly different regime.

I'm strictly limiting my starchy carbs to NO pasta, potatoes, rice, bread, etc. and my sugars to 1 piece of fruit. It's working for me weight wise, I'm not constipated ( TMI I know)

Thus I want to see just how many carbs in that tart so I can make an informed decisions.

rosequartz Sun 22-Mar-15 16:00:21

I had a two egg omelette with mushrooms fried in butter for lunch. Followed by a yogurt (which had sugar in it I think).
I am now very hungry again.

rosequartz Sun 22-Mar-15 16:01:36

I will make the tart at Easter - provided I have lost 7lbs by then grin

Mamie Sun 22-Mar-15 16:07:59

Anya, have you tried spelt flour? It is no use on a strict no-carb diet but is much lower GI when you are maintaining. I sometimes make a tart or pie with 100g of spelt flour for the two of us and it has a lovely nutty taste. It needs very little liquid though. We obviously don't have any other carbs with it.

TriciaF Sun 22-Mar-15 16:09:06

My question is, how much fat should there be in this diet? We eat a low carb diet and aren't overweight. But I have a cholesterol problem (2 stents) and have been advised to cut down on fats. Also I take tablets for high blood pressure.
I've never eaten cheese, butter or cream since the operation, it was emphasised in the workshop we had afterwards. Also not too many eggs. (And don't smoke - I gave up ages ago, but most of the men at that session still smoked.)
I suppose I should ask my doctor before stepping up the fats.

Anya Sun 22-Mar-15 16:19:30

I've never tried spelt flour. Do you use it in the same ratio as ordinary flour?

If I was making that tart I'd have it with salad, no other carbs, as you do.

Rose I have a wonderful recipe for cake using no flour, no sugar and Orange Cream Cheese Frosting all over it! I'm saving that for Easter! I'll send you the 'how to do' on the Cheese & Leek Tart when you've lost your 7lbs sunshine

Tricia if you have a heart problem and stents fitted don't go doing anything against medical advice.

Mamie Sun 22-Mar-15 16:19:52

I think Tricia, that yes, it would be good to read around the subject. If you Google "low-carb high-fat diet, there is masses of info. The link I posted up thread to the diet doctor is a good starting point. But obviously you need to talk to your doctor. However I have talked about it to our MT and the remplacant and neither was particularly well informed. The ladies at my gym douce class all ask how I have lost so much weight and gasp in amazement when I tell them. Not sure it has arrived in France yet!

Mamie Sun 22-Mar-15 16:24:06

Yes, spelt is the same ratio as ordinary flour. We make spelt bread too; just takes a little bit longer to rise on the second proving.

Anya Sun 22-Mar-15 16:37:25

Just run my days food (including my dinner which I need to start cooking soon) and the glass of red wine I intend to drink later, though a calorie checker.

There is carb in almost everything, except the eggs. So it's impossible to eat NO carbs.

I will have eaten slightly less than 1000 kcals today. It is almost exactly 30% fat, 30% protein and 30% carbs. So I'm happy with that. I've not been hungry all week.

But it just goes to show how many carbs we would normally eat in a day otherwise.

Thanks for that info Mamie

merlotgran Sun 22-Mar-15 16:39:14

Anya, I based the shortcrust pastry on half fat to flour and assumed you used butter.

Per serving the results are:

Protein - 15.4g
Carbohydrate - 21.8g (of which sugar 2.18g)
Fat - 31.7g (of which saturates 18.7g)
Fibre 2.43g
Salt 1.02g

The traffic light label states: Fat Medium
Saturates High
Sugar Low
Salt Med

429 kcals per portion

This won't really suit a low carb diet because the saturated fat is high.

I'll try and upload the labels but not sure if the picture thread is working.

granjura Sun 22-Mar-15 16:45:41

I am sorry, but it would not be suitable for a low carb diet, not because of saturates, but because it is high carb??? Or am I totally on the wrong track here- more confused than ever.

merlotgran Sun 22-Mar-15 16:51:20

I think Anya knows it's not suitable for a low carb diet but just wanted an analysis.

Unfortunately the pictures thread does not accept Bitmap images sad so I can't upload the labels.

Mamie Sun 22-Mar-15 16:51:26

The high saturated fat is fine. As I understand it other principle of LCHF is that calories are irrelevant and you don't need to count them.

merlotgran Sun 22-Mar-15 16:54:55

I think we can disregard the analysis of the Cheese and Leek Flan as having anything at all to do with the diet or it's going to lead to confusion. [confusion]

Calories are irrelevant.

Mamie Sun 22-Mar-15 16:57:20

Fair enough. grin
Our spicy lamb smells delicious. I have cooked it in a low oven for three hours in one of those cooking bags that are not plastic.

granjura Sun 22-Mar-15 17:04:05

Sorry to insist Merlot. But your comment was:

This won't really suit a low carb diet because the saturated fat is high.

We are all aware the tart was unsuitable for low carb diet- but because it is high carb 21.8 gr- and not because of the fat. Surely?

Anya Sun 22-Mar-15 17:04:57

Never mind!

granjura Sun 22-Mar-15 17:05:00

The recipe for the spicy lamb would be wonderful Mamie- when you find time. Is it the Madhur Jaffey classic?

Bon appétit.

Anya Sun 22-Mar-15 17:07:30

Thanks Merlot that's a lot of carbs, but low in sugars! Interesting that it's only medium fat, though sats are high.

Anya Sun 22-Mar-15 17:10:34

This thread is really helpful as it's helping me get my head round the whole thing.

Mmmmmm.....spicy lamb. Yes, recipe please smile

merlotgran Sun 22-Mar-15 17:11:56

Granjura I only mentioned the bloody saturated fat because the flan contained carbohydrates. It wouldn't matter whether I mentioned the carbs OR the fat because they are BOTH unsuitable if combined in the same dish.

If you're going to pick all my posts apart I won't bother and I think you know perfectly well what I meant.

I'm off for a gin hmm