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Dieting & exercise
Thought we needed a shiny new thread for the New Year.
The thread is intended to support people who are already on the diet or want to start losing weight / gaining health benefits by low-carbing.
Here is a simple explanation of this way of eating and how it works.
www.dietdoctor.com/lchf
You do not have to count calories, weigh anything, exercise furiously or feel hungry.
You do have to cut out sugar and sugar-substitutes and avoid starchy foods like potatoes, bread, rice and pasta.
You need to eat lots of vegetables (especially those grown above ground) and protein which can be cheese, eggs, meat, fish etc. You can eat olive oil, butter and other natural fats. You can eat limited amounts of fruit, dark chocolate and some alcoholic drinks in moderation.
You need to avoid anything labelled low-fat and most processed food and drink.
Here is a link to the Mumsnet low-carb bootcamp thread, for those who want to lose weight more quickly than the diet adopted by most people on the existing Gransnet thread.
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/low_carb_bootcamp
Here is a link to the original Gransnet thread - though there is absolutely no need to plough through it before you start. 
www.gransnet.com/forums/dieting_and_exercise/1214778-Support-and-ideas-for-those-on-low-carb-diet
We aim to help each other by offering ideas, recipes and support. Welcome aboard!
Well done, BB! You will have one more week on the 8 week Blood Sugar Diet. How will you then change your regime to keep losing? I am not doing well, not in the right mindset. I know when the time is right I can do it properly, as I did with the alternate day fasting, losing 2.5 stone in 3 months then reaching a plateau. I need to lose another 1.5. That bread, butter and jam sounds wonderful! 
Well done you Bbevan.
This article is in The Guardian today.
www.theguardian.com/society/2016/apr/07/the-sugar-conspiracy-robert-lustig-john-yudkin
It is a long read but fascinating and makes me 
at the lies and manipulation that have led to the obesity epidemic.
BB well done to you 
Mamie I've just recently finally finished Robert Lustig's book and am convinced LCHF is the right approach. I read MM's latest book, but I know we'll struggle with 800 cals. My blood test in January showed increases in cholesterol and something else (can't remember what) and these increases seemed to correspond with changing to LCHF. I'm waiting for the results from the latest blood tests to see if there's reason for concern.
My husband has lost just over a stone since last November, but I am still finding it hard going because I don't get much enjoyment from eating this way. Food has always been a comfort for me and I struggle with eating to live, not living to eat (yes, that old chestnut). I want to enjoy my food, not 'just' eat to fuel and nourish my body. This is a life long problem for me and I have never found a way to change my relationship with food - and it's not for the want of trying.
Is it possible to identify why it is that you don't enjoy it, Wilma?
Is it because you can't eat the things you want to or that you can't snack when you want to? What would your comfort food be? Sorry if I sound like the Spanish inquisition, just trying to understand better.
We love eating and to be honest would struggle to live in deepest rural France if we didn't spend a lot of time thinking about, growing, preparing and eating food. We are definitely "foodies" and probably sound horribly pretentious sometimes (for which I apologise but not a lot ). We honestly don't have a sense of missing anything on the diet. Neither of us has a sweet tooth which probably helps.
Mamie no need to apologise!
Yes, it's because I can't eat the things you want to or that I can't snack when I want to - and that's what needs to change. I've had a sweet tooth all my life and I know it's that chemical addiction to sugar that makes things harder for me now. I can lose weight following the Slimming World plan because it caters for my sweet tooth. Comfort food for me would be baked beans (!), biscuits, cake, chocolate and sweets - all shop bought of course.
We're not foodies, but our meals are rarely unhealthy (although they're not always LCHF). It's what we ate between meals that's made us overweight, so now we're trying not to eat between meals. My husband manages this just fine. I don't because I'm used to snacking on fruit between meals.when I'm trying to lose weight. Oh I'm not explaining this well.
Like many people, I have a complicated relationship with food and right now I'm rebelling against the cr*ppy things going on with my health (saw my MS consultants yesterday). I'll get it out of my system and get back on the wagon soon. 
I love yoghurt and berries - we have it almost every day (Greek yogurt is our favourite). I have mine as a dessert and DH has his as a snack in the evening. We've planted another raspberry bush and also a blueberry bush now. Funnily enough I have just been thinking about adding some dark chocolate. Greens do small bars that would make a nice treat.
I suspect I struggle partly because of trying to be very strict and can end up taking low carb to the almost no carb level. It might be easier to count carbs for a while to get back in balance. Coming on here and reading about what others eat helps as a reminder.
Thanks for the link too... will wander over to the dark side.
I've been away BB with dodgy wifi so only just read your post. Well done you clever person you 
Don't beat yourself up Wilma just keep trying. I tend not to eat yoghurt as its full of sugar and use cream on my berries instead.
Well to be honest I'm not a great yoghurt eater anyway 
Rather than pine for food you shouldn't be eating, try concentrating on everything you can eat perhaps?
DH loves yoghurt and I spent ages in Sainsbury's trying to find one that wasn't full of sugar. We use creme fraiche (not the low fat one) on fruit. The DGSs hate it so whenever they come for Sunday Lunch I'm instructed to serve real cream and not CRIME fraiche.
No sugar in full-fat plain yoghurt surely? Not in France anyway.
Burnt dinner tonight. There is a ring on my cooker that seems to have a mind of its own - bigger and damnation.
Wilma regarding baked beans - I'm a low-carbie and a foodie and eat Heinz BB (reduced salt and sugar) at least three times a week for breakfast.
I have half a can (200g) topped with two fried eggs and a couple of chopped anchovies ..... delicious
Anya good to hear your Wi-Fi is sorted. We only eat Lidl's full fat Greek yogurt and it has 5g of carbs in a large pot, so it's definitely LCHF. 
I have been focusing on what I can eat for the last 6 months and have tried lots of new food products and recipes. That's why I'm now admitting it is a struggle because I haven't found it particularly satisfying.
But I do think we (me and my DH) can make it easier for ourselves by monitoring for a little while just how many carbs we're eating because I suspect it's too few. I know from past experience with losing weight what food stuffs are high/low in carbs, but I realised that I have only checked the actual number of grams for a couple of things we eat. The rest of the time I just make low carbs choices. The result might be that we're too close to the 20g a day limit followed by the ultra-low carbers (not us at all!).
It will do no harm to plan our food by counting carbs for a few days.
Riverwalk half a can of low salt/sugar is still over 20g of carbs which seems like a lot to me. But on checking the Diet Doctor website, between 20g and 50g is the daily guidelines for moderately low carb, so half a can of beans doesn't seem so bad then. And that's not taking fibre into account, so you can eat more than 50g if needs be on occasion. Thanks!
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