100% carnivore diet

MerylStreep

My daughter has a very varied diet. She also has colonic irrigation.
I won’t go into details but meat can stay in the bowl for a very long time.

Pineapple help to digest proteins, particularly meat.

It might be cheaper than colonic irrigation 🍍 😄

I also heard recently that people who eat quickly put on more weight than those who eat slowly

That might be a myth. I eat very slowly, I did speed up at school but generally I'm always the last to finish.
I'm not exactly Skinny Minnie (but not obese!)

Rabbitgran

Sounds interesting. Can you eat any non starchy vegetables or salad with the meat?

None whatsoever. We went wild swimming and took a picnic ever day. I had a bit of cheese and crackers, and a peach and couple of apricots. She had 2 boiled eggs and some sort of 'flapjacks' made with liver, and NO cereal.

VenusdeVillendorf-what has she got to lose, apart from the weight. Is her health, in the long term. Probably better than being morbidly obese at 5' and 160 kilos- but ... surely there is a better, more balanced way.

BTW she is not a friend- we were volunteer hosts for handicapped people on assisted tricycles- and stayed for 4 days.

Again, no criticism from me. Just lots of questions.

In the evening, a huge plate of meat, only meat. 2 whole steaks, 2 big lamb slices 1 inch thick, 1 whole chickend- for the 3 nights she was with us. With butter, lots of butter.

I think I'd feel sick on a diet of meat, fats, butterand cream with just a few greens.

NO greens at all, in fact.

Yes, watching her eat a platefull of 2 big steaks and slabs of butter, made me feel very strange.

Cossy

Like it or not it’s high sugars and carbs which are actually so bad for us, my war child parents are full fat butter, cream, and meat. Meat 5 times a week, fish twice, combined with fresh vegs and fruit. They never had weight problems and both lived into their 80’s. Sadly smoking and alcohol affected their health, food was never an issue, their portions were reasonably small and their food always freshly bought and they exercised too, normally long walks.

Totally agree about high sugars and carbs- that turn into sugar- and fat.

But that does not mean, surely, that one has to cut out all good low carb veg and fruit and go meat only.

My parents never carried any fat at all, and ate a very balanced diet of a bit of everything, and lived until 94. In their latter years, being so skinny left themw without reserves at all. Smoking killed my mum at 94. My dad died of a broken heart at 96- soon after she died.

160 kilos/25 stone at 5 foot - good grief at that weight any diet that led to losing half her body weight is worth it!

The diet sounds extreme but it has worked and on balance I'd say that that is better for her health overall, compared to her previous weight.

The fact that she's now gained more mobility can only be good for her health longer term.

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I like butter, cream, steak which we do tend to think of as "the wrong things", but not on their own.

I can see how it could work in the short-term, but surely introducing different foods afterwards and controlling portions is the best thing to do.

However, I read years ago that once fat cells are produced by the body, they never disappear, they just sit in wait to be filled up again if we consume more calories than we burn!

No greens? This cannot be healthy.

Riverwalk

160 kilos/25 stone at 5 foot - good grief at that weight any diet that led to losing half her body weight is worth it!

The diet sounds extreme but it has worked and on balance I'd say that that is better for her health overall, compared to her previous weight.

The fact that she's now gained more mobility can only be good for her health longer term.

It is better, but she must still be overweight.

The idea of a liver flapjack makes me queasy!

I belong to a diabetic forum and there are people on there who drink coffee with butter - yuk!!

Having said that, I eat very few carbs (50-70g a day) - most of my carb intake comes from veg, some fruits and dairy (lactose). I eat meat (usually chicken) maybe twice a week and the same for fish. Much of my protein comes from eggs, dairy and nuts. I'm never at a loss for variety in my diet.

I've never had digestive problems, have maintained a healthy weight all my life and all my blood tests come back as "normal" - with just a little help from medicinal friends. I've even been taken off statins and blood pressure medication and apparently I'm still within the "normal" range.

Yes, which is why she is continuing with it. Her issue now will be what happens next, not with the diet, but her invalidity benefit and assistance. As she regains mobility and her health, and the associated pains and disabiltiy- what next? She will probably go from disability benefit staight into early retirement. It really makes you think.

Germanshepherdsmum

No greens? This cannot be healthy.

Greens are a great source of Vitamin C, but so are animal internal organs, so greens are theoretically not necessary.

PS. Personally, I dislike internal organs and would rather eat plates of greens, but each to their own.

DD lost seven and a half stone in a year and the GP told her it was healthier to shed the weight by any method than lug it all around every day. She quadrupled her exercise and ate pulses, vegetables, tofu, fish and fruit. So losing half her body weight would undoubtedly be good for this person you met, although not for the planet. The problem comes trying to transition back to something more normal in terms of diet. I doubt an Atkins type diet is healthy in the longer term. DD found the weight instantly started to accumulate again once she began to add in the odd treat. By her own admission she is a food addict. Easier for her to exert rigid control than have just one slice of bread because one invariably leads to half the loaf! I do admire her for what she achieved, but unfortunately I suspect it will be a lifelong battle.

Butter in coffee doesn't appeal to me, but I suppose it's not too different from Irish coffee with that thick wodge of cream on top, or the terrible squirty cream on coffee.

Isn't it processed food and carbohydrates that are supposed to cause obesity. I have always thought humans hunted for meat, perhaps ate berries long before we grew then ate crops. Maybe not such a ridiculous diet but expensive!

Maggiemaybe

Is this some extreme form of the Atkins diet? I tried that one once, for all of a day and a half - I just felt so ill.

But perhaps if your friend was morbidly obese this was prescribed for her to lose weight quickly for health reasons?

I did that in my late teens. Had gained a lot of weight working at a Cornish Cream Tea cafe and had lost stones on it very quickly. I didn’t drink a lot of water whichI should have done. My breath smelt of acetone. I’m lucky that I didn’t permanently damage myself health wise but I’m sure it’s why I’ve struggled with my weight ever since.

Riverwalk

Butter in coffee doesn't appeal to me, but I suppose it's not too different from Irish coffee with that thick wodge of cream on top, or the terrible squirty cream on coffee.

In travel programmes I've seen people putting butter in tea, not something I'd like to try.

growstuff

Germanshepherdsmum

No greens? This cannot be healthy.

Greens are a great source of Vitamin C, but so are animal internal organs, so greens are theoretically not necessary.

PS. Personally, I dislike internal organs and would rather eat plates of greens, but each to their own.

I'd rather eat three bowlsful of Brussels sprouts!!

I like liver but the rest of the organs, no way.

Callistemon21

Riverwalk

Butter in coffee doesn't appeal to me, but I suppose it's not too different from Irish coffee with that thick wodge of cream on top, or the terrible squirty cream on coffee.

In travel programmes I've seen people putting butter in tea, not something I'd like to try.

It’s thing with coffee in America, I’ve been in a coffee bar where they served it, it’s called Bulletproof coffee. You can even ask for it in Starbucks, although they serve the ‘heavy butter’ on the side (I have no idea what light butter is, but heavy butter looked like our normal butter to me). I thought it looked horrible, the butter just melted and floated on the top.

Germanshepherdsmum

No greens? This cannot be healthy.

Vitamin supplements have been invented, seem to sell well.

They sound essential with a diet like this!