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Starblaze Mon 25-Nov-19 22:22:20

A few I still need to work on a bit more here but I remember being this person and how unhappy I was.

www.psychologytoday.com/gb/blog/tech-support/201811/12-wrong-assumptions-unloved-daughter-makes-about-life?fbclid=IwAR2_mPcSuRMrJAtTuVEb8iWrHaCzJccxP_B0UQVAep-UMGOq1VXenp-nz8Y

Smileless2012 Sat 30-Nov-19 20:51:12

I have been reading this thread since it started and have not posted as an EP and EGP as it's very title is exclusive. I did not feel that any contribution I may have to offer would be accepted, and a post that tells others to ignore comments from EP's sadly shows that my feelings were correct.

Whether you're the estranging AC or the P/GP who is estranged there is pain and suffering.

The long running thread which offers support for all who are living with estrangement would never suggest that posts from EAC be ignored.

If opinions and heartfelt posts from either side are encouraged to be ignored, is there any wonder that there are so many cases of estrangement.




EAC receive negative comments which is unfortunate but so do EP's and EGP's.

OutsideDave Sat 30-Nov-19 21:02:15

Good gracious, that ‘support’ thread is an absolute joke, there is only room for there there-ing. Folks have left you to your devices, but please don’t come over and tut over not being welcomed because of a thread title or because someone says ignore the nasties. You’ve written that countless times on your ‘support’ thread when anyone dared interject anything other than sycophantic cheerleading for distressed grannies ?

OutsideDave Sat 30-Nov-19 21:04:46

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Smileless2012 Sat 30-Nov-19 21:11:40

This is an open forum OutsideDave and if you'd spent as much time, years actually, reading the support thread you would know that EAC have been welcomed if they'd chosen to post there.

That's an interesting point though, who are the nasties; the EAC or the parents who have been estranged. Make no mistake, there are nasties on both sides. Only a fool would think other wise.

Starblaze Sat 30-Nov-19 21:18:54

Just wanting a small safe space isn't wrong. So far, blatant passive aggressive comments on a post where people have talked of their deep hurt and pain. It says a lot more about those people than it does me for simply wanting a post that resources can be stored on without deletion. It's just shameful behaviour and truly sickens me to my stomach.

OutsideDave Sat 30-Nov-19 21:22:36

Yes, tell me again how ‘welcome’ agnurse has been Smileless ????

OutsideDave Sat 30-Nov-19 21:23:53

Smileless you’ve never met an estranged GP you couldn’t defend. Interesting you claim to understand their are nasties on both sides- but I’ve never ever seen you confront an EGP for bad behavior in the support

OutsideDave Sat 30-Nov-19 21:24:21

Thread or any other thread for that matter!

(Ugh I hate the lack of editing options!)

Smileless2012 Sat 30-Nov-19 21:47:54

Well that just shows how lacking your knowledge of my posts on GN are OutsideDave.

I have told an EP/EGP if I think they have done or said things that have contributed to their estrangement and continue to do so.

You seem to be confusing my responses to your own. I don't seem to remember you ever doing anything other than defend either EAC themselves or the EAC that EP's post about.

Smileless2012 Sat 30-Nov-19 21:51:13

Unfortunately there has been a lot of shameful behaviour on GN of late.

agnurse isn't an EAC OusideDave her husband is estranged from his father, her f.i.l. Do keep up.

OutsideDave Sat 30-Nov-19 21:57:32

So terribly shameful, to deny EAC a safe space free of the normal claws and barbs of the ‘support’ thread. I do agree with you there.

OutsideDave Sat 30-Nov-19 21:59:00

I’ve never claimed to think both sides are equal Smileless. You are the only one making that claim.

Chewbacca Sat 30-Nov-19 21:59:58

Please ignore EP comments or comments negative to EACs as I want to keep this thread.

Sorry to disappoint but that's not how GN works. sad Its an open forum, which means that anyobe who has an opinion can post. Once the topic is opened, the OP no longer owns it; it does not have exclusivity.

However, as a EAC myself, I have the secret password to 've allowed to post! grin My estrangement is of many years standing and I'm happy to report that I've long since reached a place of complete peace and equanimity with my decision. What is the point of, having made such a difficult and painful decision, you can't let go of the past and so it's strangling your present and future.

In the words of Elsa, "^Let it go, let it go, let it go^

Smileless2012 Sat 30-Nov-19 22:06:37

You're also able to understand and empathise with EP's Chewbacca which is what makes your contributions to discussions about estrangement so invaluablesmile.

Starblaze Sat 30-Nov-19 22:08:21

It's fine, ruin the thread. It's just a thread, it won't silence me or anyone else. I have all the links saved and I can just share them when needed.

I must have been daft to expect some of the grown adults here to behave any other way.

Have at it.

Peace out.

Smileless2012 Sat 30-Nov-19 22:12:32

No one wants to silence anyone. The three recently deleted threads haven't silenced anyone who posted on them so why should this or any other thread be any different.

Gonegirl Sat 30-Nov-19 22:12:55

What actually is EP? confused

Gonegirl Sat 30-Nov-19 22:14:36

"Have at it"? "Peace out"?

Is there a special language here? confused

Chewbacca Sat 30-Nov-19 22:22:15

EP is "estranged parent" Gonegirl.

OutsideDave Sat 30-Nov-19 22:23:02

I’d love for you to show me where you’ve ever told a GP how they’ve contributed to an estrangement. Find me a link. I love being surprised ;)

Gonegirl Sat 30-Nov-19 22:23:07

Oh right. Thank you.

Chewbacca Sat 30-Nov-19 22:27:42

Good gracious, that ‘support’ thread is an absolute joke, there is only room for there there-ing.

And then, when someone posts on this thread, offering a different perspective:

It's fine, ruin the thread.

Now; what was it you were saying about "there is only room for there, there-ing"?

OutsideDave Sat 30-Nov-19 22:38:30

I’m not Starblaze. What’s your point?

Starblaze Sat 30-Nov-19 22:44:15

Yes I'm the one who doesn't like confrontation, tries to always communicate respectfully and will even apologise in situations that weren't my fault in order to stop conflict.

Then said conflict is restarted again on my post by at least one person who agreed to end it and their friends but that's my fault somehow for wanting a post without any conflict?

Good grief.

Chewbacca Sat 30-Nov-19 22:56:36

I would have thought that it was obvious but, if you really do need it to be explained to you....

This thread is entitled Feel free to chat or add helpful resources.
The other thread is entitled SUPPORT for all who are living with estrangement*

At 21.09 today, you said "Good gracious, that ‘support’ thread is an absolute joke, there is only room for there there-ing"; thereby stating that any one who dissents form agreeing with the main posters on that thread are made to feel unwelcome and unwanted; vis-a-vis your reference to agnurse.

But when other posters joined in this thread and offered a different perspective, they were told that they were "ruining the thread"; thereby suggesting that only those people who agree with the main posters on this thread are welcome. A bit, erm, hypocritical? Insular?

I'm surprised you needed it explaining to you, to be honest.
As a EAC myself, I'm perplexed as to the on going need for introspection and analysis. If the decision has been made, and you're convinced that it was the right thing to do, and I'm sure it wasn't a decision that was taken lightly; why hasn't your decision made you happy and comfortable with yourself? Why is there this need for affirmation and support? And yet you are disdainful of those who have been on the receiving end of estrangement and who also need affirmation and support. The double standards are what intrigue me.

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