Frightened I will never see her or overcome this block

Can I have some of the cake you spat?!

Ta for the offer of cake...only just seen it as been sitting eating a plateful of sausage and mash, so too full now!

This is a genuine question ...I do not understand the definition of unicorn as referred to here other than I suspect it is being implied that I am one in this context? Of course as I don't understand it I might be wrong!

So...what is the definition/meaning of unicorn in this context?

What a farce this thread has turned into! I so feel for Sally as she was asking for advice and some posters are just horseplaying throwing digging comments at each other which has nothing to do with the the original post!! and Sally must be really upset reading all the drivel.

Wibby I have to say I agree and I said as much a little further back on the thread. I then suggested a new thread for the way the discussion was going and that was followed by the unicorn stuff which makes no sense to me and I would genuinely like to know what the phrase is supposed to mean as it is regularly used in the estrangement threads and to me is meaningless in the context.

However your comment has reminded me of my own earlier comments. I too feel sorry for the OP who I think was driven away pages back. Thankyou for reminding me!!

When I go to friends for support, the conversations change and grow, hopefully a little laughter comes in. Sometimes the dubject changes to others and comes back. That's what made me realise that I couldn't expect threads to stay on topic and I shouldn't be pedantic about it

Maybe we should leave the thread policing to gransnet

I think we lost Sally sometime ago Wibby but hopefully she's found somewhere more positive and helpful to seek the support and advice she needs.

I've seen the unicorn reference several times on the estrangement threads and not saying this is the necessarily the case this time, but it's used as an insult.

For example EP's who've done nothing to warrant their estrangement are like unicorns ie they don't really exist, or EAC who estrange their parent(s) for no good reason are like unicorns ie they don't exist either.

@Smileless I know how Sally must be feeling, it was the reason I left the site a few years ago. Sadly nothings changed!

The unicorn rules with harmony, has healing properties, it can clarify water with its noble horn ..

Wibby … I too know how Sally and you and Ironflower must be feeling.
Don't think you need to leave Wibby, try the support thread before it gets derailed.

Madgran … don't ask

*I've seen the unicorn reference several times on the estrangement threads and not saying this is the necessarily the case this time, but it's used as an insult.

For example EP's who've done nothing to warrant their estrangement are like unicorns ie they don't really exist, or EAC who estrange their parent(s) for no good reason are like unicorns ie they don't exist either.*

Ah ok ...thankyou Smileless

hopefully a little laughter comes in

Which maybe could be fine if everyone understands the joke or has it explained when they ask!

What have I not explained?

Do have a look at the Support thread Wibby, I totally understand that this and possibly another thread on the estrangement thread make it look as if nothing's changed, and you're right I'm sorry to say.

That said the support thread has been running for than 7 years. It has stood not only the test of time but the occasional posters who come on to try and upset those who use it for the purpose it was created for.

You're welcome Madgran.

Unicorns ....?

Yes they're surprisingly more common than you could ever have imagined Madgran.

Starblaze I see that you explained unicorns on another thread. Thankyou!

Was it the right thread? I'm losing track lol

Starblaze I know what you mean

There's a whole language connected to estrangement.

It's quite juvenile and not too hard to understand, if anyone can be bothered.

It's a bit like teenagers who need a language different to everyone else to define themselves as part of a social group.

What sort of language Namsnanny? Examples?

Where on earth do you find the energy, Smileless ? It's like angry teens meet American psycho-babble, meets attention-seeking behaviour. The original poster - whatever her history on the Forum - and anyone else who has anything sensible to say, will definitely be deterred from posting, ever again. Is that the plan, do you think ? High time that those with their harsh words and try hard language climbed onto those Unicorns and went off to play elsewhere. Not convinced that discussions with adults are really their thing?

Grandmafrench How can you say the rudest, most generalising, most invalidating thing so far on this thread and think it somehow makes adult estranged childroon look bad?

I'm honestly baffled.

I'm not baffled Grandmafrench …. after reading your post.

Wow Motherofdragons you have written such wise words in your post. Thankyou so much. I do want a relationship with my d and gc and I know its raw right now with my d finding the things out about her s and my gd. She is very angry this she has told me herself. I suppose seeking out the courts so soon is because I'm so scared to sit on it for too long and then come to find out my d is still refusing to speak with me and stopping me seeing the children, then the court may decide the gap has been too long therefore refuse to accept my even having a relationship with the gc anymore. My d has even used the very same words you have posted that she is still trying to process what happened. But now comes the but, unless she agrees to sit down and try to sort everything out with me neither of us are going to be able to move forward. I'm even moreso worried with her mindset right now as I did text her just days ago to let her know her grandad was in hospital with Covid. She has never been close to him, neither have I really due to my parents divorcing when I was 3. But he is still my dad and her grandad. I was so upset when the hospital called me, all I wanted to do was talk with my d as upset as I was. My d didnt even send me a text to ask after him. This is what is so worrying for me, that if she won't even communicate with this then shes never going to communicate with me again. Plus with Covid I can't imagine my paperwork of which I want to file would even be looked at for a long time yet. I don't want to cause a bigger problem but if and when I do file to go to court, I really hope this move will at least make her realize just how much I love my gc to want to see them so badly...