Exposing the divisive subject

It's sad to think of all the people believing this who have isolated themselves from friends and family.

I can't believe it either Whiff, but this is what people are losing their families and friends for so I'm exposing it. To us it doesn''t even make sense, but to them it makes perfect sense, unfortunately.

i have heard of it, and i think it was reading it on here, and poss on MN, that the rabid anti-vaxxers avoid the vaccinated in case they shed on them.
they've read things from cult HQ that tell them the vaccinated will shed something dangerous onto them if they get too close.
so they are advised to avoid them, cut off.
lots of these ideas swirling around.
there is a coven of anti-vaxxers near here, at least three in different households just up the road.
lots of them dotted about; all white, middle-class, well educated, two of them doctors/dentists.
fortunately the dentist is retired. and doc mostly private practice.

welbeck

i have heard of it, and i think it was reading it on here, and poss on MN, that the rabid anti-vaxxers avoid the vaccinated in case they shed on them.
they've read things from cult HQ that tell them the vaccinated will shed something dangerous onto them if they get too close.
so they are advised to avoid them, cut off.
lots of these ideas swirling around.
there is a coven of anti-vaxxers near here, at least three in different households just up the road.
lots of them dotted about; all white, middle-class, well educated, two of them doctors/dentists.
fortunately the dentist is retired. and doc mostly private practice.

@welbeck yes I read about it mainly on here I think when someone said their teenage daughter was not allowed to visit her friend anymore

No doubt some of these people are well educated, but not all. I overheard two men openly discussing it today in the street and they were most definitely not educated or cultured in any way. Im sure that the existence of authorititive and well educated people

Oops pressed too soon! Im sure that the existence of authorititive and well educated people must make them believe it.

hmmm sounds like we should start stockpiling tinfoil next then

muffinthemoo that's funny. Hope others get the reference. ?

Well I m like you lemsip I have a wide range of friends and acquaintances and with working in a charity shop chat to dozens of people a day and have never come across this I ve only heard of it on this thread It must depend what area of the country you live in
I have never seen any anti vaxes propaganda around here thankfully

When we first got told about having vaccinations I got sent a long conspiracy theory read from my youngest ( she lives in Europe) I said I m not reading this and let’s not talk about it as I m having my jabs, we ve never spoken since but my grandkids tell me she’s had both jabs !!! Haha

I am so sorry for your awful situation; I must be fortunate as literally everyone (bar children) I know has had the vaccine and its not in any way controversial in my circles

BlueBelle

Well I m like you lemsip I have a wide range of friends and acquaintances and with working in a charity shop chat to dozens of people a day and have never come across this I ve only heard of it on this thread It must depend what area of the country you live in
I have never seen any anti vaxes propaganda around here thankfully

When we first got told about having vaccinations I got sent a long conspiracy theory read from my youngest ( she lives in Europe) I said I m not reading this and let’s not talk about it as I m having my jabs, we ve never spoken since but my grandkids tell me she’s had both jabs !!! Haha

So sorry to hear about your youngest, Bluebelle! Haha that seems a bit hypocritical of her! Maybe she saw sense and isn't good at admitting she's wrong? I have one like this who is not speaking to me currently!

jenpax

I am so sorry for your awful situation; I must be fortunate as literally everyone (bar children) I know has had the vaccine and its not in any way controversial in my circles

Thank you Jenpax.
One of the things that really upset me recently was reading of the Un---ventional Parent who was featured in a daily newspaper saying they had never worn a mask etc. When I viewed their social media they are posting anti vaccine stuff openly. Their 9 year old has never seen Dr or been to school. They have a lot of followers and now I know where a lot of these beliefs come from. I'm not sure why they are getting away with posting this stuff, influencing the health of many though they are not qualified to do so. Their children LOOK healthy now, but only time will tell. Meanwhile we are losing family members and friends as their movement gathers followers in the name of freedom.
They and their followers are camping in Parliament square on 19th July (with their kids) I suppose the kids will be a human shield to stop them getting arrested, Disgusting!

Soozikinzi

I am aware of this situation so I feel I should comment in support of OP . My SiL has fallen out with her sister because she is so antibacterial ans her sister persuaded their brother not to have the vaccine . Sort from anything else one of their nieces works in ICU and another is a radiographer . So you can see how much the family is divided. It’s such a shame because they were a close family before.

But this thread isn't about people being avoided because they have NOT been vaccinated, it is because they HAVE and their friends think they are somehow "contaminated".

Two things I don't quite understand -

1) How can they believe such drivel?

2)Where are all these confused people? According to the OP this weird attitude is rife. How come I have never met anyone so deluded, or even heard of anyone else being treated in this way?

Is it yet another minority madness that is being bumped up on social media by people getting worked up about a few cases and treating it as a major trend - thus fostering it as a major trend. Don't forget - a trend is caused by people picking up an idea and repeating it. "Everyone is saying that . " includes the person who is repeating that "Everyone . . etc"

There has been a group of anti vaxxers/covid deniers protesting outside our local Sainsburys today. They're churning out the usual drivel about "the evils of using humans as guinea pigs" and references to "Nazi camps medical experiments". They're very vocal and, when challenged by anyone who engages with them, they're quite aggressive. They're largely being ridiculed by most people but I did see one or two accepting their pamphlets. No idea why the police haven't moved them away.

Sorry to hear that Chewbacca, that sounds similar to the ones that I had some problems with.

It's not acceptable to have these people trying to foist their views on us . We already know they are using fear to try and control people but that they have their own agenda. They should stay home and mind their own business.

I am glad if they are being challenged and ridiculed because they have challenged and ridiculed US, calling us sheep, calling face masks nappies, challenging our private decisions to choose what to do with our bodies etc. Unfortunately for them, being challenged will probably make them dig their heels in more and who knows what will happen to them.

My SD has stopped all contact with her Dad because he has had the vaccine and she believes all the anti vaccine rubbish on line such as a chip being inserted, your dna being altered etc etc.
A friend of my husband sends us anti vaccine stuff all the time and mentions it each time we meet, has never worn a mask or socially distanced himself, wants to hug etc. No, just no!

Im so sorry Bashful. That's really sad.

These people just don't get it. All we can do is not keep quiet about what is happening so people can look out for their young ones.

Unfortunately I have lost a few people who I never thought I would, too. We have not tried to reason with them. I feel that the more we might try, the more they would dig their heels in. They really feel at risk from us, which is sad.

I don’t know anyone personally who has refused the vaccine but one of my friends is very upset as her daughter is refusing to visit or have any contact with her because my 83 year old friend has been vaccinated.

My friends has multiple serious health problems. Imagine treating your mother like that because some bloke on Instagram thinks he knows better than the scientists who have made a lifelong study of virology.

Kamiso

I don’t know anyone personally who has refused the vaccine but one of my friends is very upset as her daughter is refusing to visit or have any contact with her because my 83 year old friend has been vaccinated.

My friends has multiple serious health problems. Imagine treating your mother like that because some bloke on Instagram thinks he knows better than the scientists who have made a lifelong study of virology.

Yes, quite. Disgusting behaviour isn't it! Thanks for sharing this because I think it's important that no one feels alone with this. It's happening to more people all the time- and though it's unlikely to shame those who think it's acceptable for them to dump their vaccinated family and friends, it may, I hope provide some support and less feeling of isolation.