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Estrangement

Unable to forgive or forget

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ttgran Fri 12-Nov-21 08:42:07

Mum was widowed in the 1950s left with three children under five never remarried no family to help no idea how she managed to keep us together but she did.
Fast forward to 1970s my two brothers on marriage estranged her and me at different times for no given reason.
She became a big part of my family and died in the 1990s still unable to accept this cruel act.
Yesterday totally unexpected I received a phishing email with many relevant details of my early life so not a scam .
It is my brother in the email he wishes to reconnect and not to hold grudges!!!
He doesn't know its me he is just guessing and probably sent numerous emails to others I blocked him.
Having read many of your emails regarding estrangement that you still love but not like your AC I sadly have neither for both of them.
If mum was still alive I probably could have asked her what she wanted to do but after all these years I have no feelings towards either of them.
Should I have let the past go? I think I did the right thing.

ttgran Fri 12-Nov-21 13:19:11

Thank you all for your replies I agree with Smileless2012 and Oopsadaisy1 best leave the past behind.
I don't need to hear the other side of the story he just stopped phoning no warning no argument they both just disappeared from our lives for the first few years mum was hopeful they would contact her but not to be.
I just feel the sheer arrogance of even writing the email.

Smileless2012 Fri 12-Nov-21 13:29:59

I hope having made this decision you're able to put the email behind you ttgran and I wish you wellflowers.

AGAA4 Fri 12-Nov-21 14:32:43

I would be suspicious of your brother.
Years have gone by and he wants to get in touch.
What does he want?
I would steer well clear of him. You have managed without him for a long time.

DiscoDancer1975 Fri 12-Nov-21 14:38:40

I wouldn’t instigate a meeting with my estranged sister, but if she contacted me...curiosity would probably take over.

It doesn’t have to be face to face at first. The beauty of the internet.

You may regret it if you don’t. You’ll always wonder. If you ‘ meet’ him, then at least you can put it to bed if you want.

Good luck.

eazybee Fri 12-Nov-21 16:03:12

I would make contact and ask what has made him seek you out, then make the decision about whether to increase contact depending on what he has to say.
Otherwise, you will always be curious.

MissAdventure Fri 12-Nov-21 16:04:28

I wouldn't even be curious.
I wouldn't forgive or forget.

Oopsadaisy1 Fri 12-Nov-21 16:47:02

OP has responded, top of this page

tickingbird Fri 12-Nov-21 16:54:09

My curiosity would get the better of me but I certainly wouldn’t be inclined to forgive and forget.

marymary62 Fri 12-Nov-21 17:00:22

Very hard. My brother did the same upon marrying his second wife 35 years ago. . He did keep in touch with mum sporadically but not his own children - he didn’t show up for dads or mums funerals . Excuses about supporting his second wife and her not being accepted by the family which was all rubbish ...! He was my favourite out of three brother when I was little bit the other two have been loyal and supportive all my life while he has been absent - even when his grandchildren were ill and his own daughter had cancer . Yet he seems to feel he can still say he loves us !
Anyway you just do what you think is the right thing for you - there is no right or wrong answer. If you feel the right thing is to let the last go then let it go - it’s for you to chose now and to protect your own happiness. I know how hard it is and you have my sincerest good wishes in this .

Smileless2012 Fri 12-Nov-21 17:31:20

'There's nowt so queer as folk' is there marymary.

No contact with his own children, when his GC were ill and his D had cancershock. Sporadic contact with your (his) mum "Yet he seems to feel he can say he loves us"; difficult to believe isn't it.

Peasblossom Fri 12-Nov-21 17:35:26

It’s easier to forgive your own hurts than those that have hurt someone you love, don’t you think?

Smileless2012 Fri 12-Nov-21 17:39:37

Yes I think it is Peasblossom I don't think I'll ever be able to forgive our ES for breaking his dad's heart.

Redhead56 Fri 12-Nov-21 17:58:15

I could not forgive someone who did this without explanation years earlier. Your mother lived with the pain of what he had done and died never knowing why.

Peasblossom Fri 12-Nov-21 18:01:40

?Smileless

marymary62 Fri 12-Nov-21 18:58:41

ttgran - I know that hope - and no you don’t need to respond. There is nothing to be gained for you but more heartache I think .

Nonogran Fri 12-Nov-21 19:27:46

In your shoes, I’d walk on by. I couldn’t forgive or forget what your brother did.
I’m in a similar situation so blocked my brother from every method of contact. I simply don’t need him in my life.
It gets easier to stop thinking of him as time passes. It’s now been years and years and I’ve no regrets. My resolve grows strong.

Allsorts Fri 12-Nov-21 19:34:58

If he had hurt my mom then no I would not connect.

Yoginimeisje Sat 13-Nov-21 08:38:32

silverlining48

Yogin I am sorry and not sure if this helps but it is probable that your gd was adopted by her mother and partner. It is usual for the surname of the child then to be changed.
Adoption can help children feel secure especially if other/later children are involved.

My GD was not adopted by him. I have my GD original birth certificate and the fraudulent one with name changes. My estD will not have any more children.

Hithere Sat 13-Nov-21 08:57:22

Just because an email was sent, you dont have to make a decision right now

Whose side did you take when he stopped calling?
If you didn't remain neutral, it could be a reason why you were collateral damage

silverlining48 Sat 13-Nov-21 09:08:08

Yogin a fake birth certificate is illegal. I am sorry, just hoped to help, flowers

Yoginimeisje Sat 13-Nov-21 09:23:26

Just replying to you Silver no issues. Yes it is illegal. Just the thought of him adopting my GD is upsetting to me. He said he wouldn't, no doubt because he would have to pay maintenance if he & my estD split.

Bibbity Sat 13-Nov-21 12:48:35

What do you mean by fraudulent? You can’t just go in and get it changed.

If your daughter used the channels to change the name then that doesn’t make it fake regardless of your feelings on the matter.

Allsorts Sat 20-Nov-21 20:15:30

He and your brother had no contact with you or their mother, as someone estranged from my child I can tell you it breaks your heart whatever face you put on. She died knowing they didn’t care.

Yoginimeisje Sun 21-Nov-21 06:43:04

Bibbity

What do you mean by fraudulent? You can’t just go in and get it changed.

If your daughter used the channels to change the name then that doesn’t make it fake regardless of your feelings on the matter.

I didn't say it was fake. He is on the birth certificate as my GD father and he is not. On the original birth cert. father is left blank.

Smileless2012 Sun 21-Nov-21 09:50:30

A lie then Yogin.