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Harry: "I want my Father back. I want my brother back"

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OnwardandUpward Tue 03-Jan-23 13:34:07

Ah diddums are the consequences of your actions catching up with you?

A change of heart is needed! You need to face up to your own actions and stop acting as the only victim.

Chestnut Wed 04-Jan-23 15:42:12

Well here is the latest headline, presumably leaked by Mandela's granddaughter. Quote:
Nelson Mandela’s granddaughter accuses Harry and Meghan of ‘stealing’ the anti-apartheid icon's words in Netflix show 'to make millions' – and says she doesn't believe the Sussexes 'ever properly met' him.

Calendargirl Wed 04-Jan-23 15:44:39

the favoured journalists are sent a partridge from the Sandringham Estate

Crikey, a partridge, in the singular?

Partridges are not very big, would have expected them to be sent a brace, at least.

Probably the RF are on an economy drive.

M0nica Wed 04-Jan-23 15:59:35

Smileless What someone says about themselves to the press, is no more believable or accurate than anyone elses.

Everything anyone in the public eye says to the press has been curated and tailored to present the best view possible of themselves and their actions.or the view they want. It will hide anything they do not want to be known. This applies to anyone in the public eye, without exception.

Lathyrus Wed 04-Jan-23 16:32:20

Glorianny

As regards Archewell and California law, all charities are required to register annually with the Attorney General's office and have an annual audit. The records are accessible to anyone
a) The register, copies of instruments and the reports filed with the Attorney General, except as provided in subdivision (b) and pursuant to Government Code section 12590, shall be open to public inspection at the Registry of Charitable Trusts in the office of the Attorney General, Sacramento, California, at such reasonable times as the Attorney General may determine. Such inspection shall at all times be subject to thecontrol and supervision of an employee of the Office of the Attorney General

So the idea that the press cannot find out about Archewell is completely false. Anyone can.

Colorado Law does not require any disclosure of donations to the charity or from the charity. Only the registration details. This is all that is supplied to the Attorney General.

The Legislative Assembly found that millions of dollars were fraudulently taken from charities registered in Colorado each year and that fraudulent activity was widespread throughout those charities registered in Colorado.

People can draw their own conclusions as to why Archewell chose to register in this State.

volver Wed 04-Jan-23 16:42:21

Chestnut

Well here is the latest headline, presumably leaked by Mandela's granddaughter. Quote:
Nelson Mandela’s granddaughter accuses Harry and Meghan of ‘stealing’ the anti-apartheid icon's words in Netflix show 'to make millions' – and says she doesn't believe the Sussexes 'ever properly met' him.

Also said by Ms Mandela:

I admire Harry for having the confidence to break away from an institution as iconic as the Royal Family. Grandad rebelled against an arranged marriage to find his own path in life.

I know the Nelson Mandela Foundation has supported the initiative.

I hope anybody making any documentary about a historic person realises that they are not allowed to quote them, because that (apparently) would be "stealing their words".

volver Wed 04-Jan-23 16:45:59

Lathyrus

Glorianny

As regards Archewell and California law, all charities are required to register annually with the Attorney General's office and have an annual audit. The records are accessible to anyone
a) The register, copies of instruments and the reports filed with the Attorney General, except as provided in subdivision (b) and pursuant to Government Code section 12590, shall be open to public inspection at the Registry of Charitable Trusts in the office of the Attorney General, Sacramento, California, at such reasonable times as the Attorney General may determine. Such inspection shall at all times be subject to thecontrol and supervision of an employee of the Office of the Attorney General

So the idea that the press cannot find out about Archewell is completely false. Anyone can.

Colorado Law does not require any disclosure of donations to the charity or from the charity. Only the registration details. This is all that is supplied to the Attorney General.

The Legislative Assembly found that millions of dollars were fraudulently taken from charities registered in Colorado each year and that fraudulent activity was widespread throughout those charities registered in Colorado.

People can draw their own conclusions as to why Archewell chose to register in this State.

Sorry, maybe I'm being thick.

Archewell is registered in Delaware not Colorado, isn't it?

Maybe its not me that's being thick, of course...

Lathyrus Wed 04-Jan-23 16:46:26

I think it’s the using his words to make millions for themselves that is upsetting to her.

Perhaps not the way such a great and generous man would like his words to be used?

Lathyrus Wed 04-Jan-23 16:47:16

Have they changed the registration? It was first registered in Colorado.

volver Wed 04-Jan-23 16:48:20

Well people make millions out of publishing books about the late Queen and her family and nobody bats an eyelid.

Sauce for the goose etc.

volver Wed 04-Jan-23 16:48:36

Lathyrus

Have they changed the registration? It was first registered in Colorado.

No it wasn't.

Lathyrus Wed 04-Jan-23 16:49:05

Oh yes, I see. Delaware now.

Lathyrus Wed 04-Jan-23 16:50:22

volver

Well people make millions out of publishing books about the late Queen and her family and nobody bats an eyelid.

Sauce for the goose etc.

Still she feels sad about it and is entitled to express her “truth”,

Lathyrus Wed 04-Jan-23 16:50:44

Mandela granddaughter that is

volver Wed 04-Jan-23 16:52:27

Lathyrus

Oh yes, I see. Delaware now.

And so the comments about why they might want to register in Colorado? Implying that it was because they might be syphoning money out of it fraudulently?

We'll just ignore that bit of your post, shall we?

Wouldn't want anybody to be done for slander (libel?), now, would we?

Lathyrus Wed 04-Jan-23 16:53:47

Just surfing the Internet for information n Archewell.

Only reporting what I’m finding out.

Glorianny Wed 04-Jan-23 16:56:27

volver

Lathyrus

Glorianny

As regards Archewell and California law, all charities are required to register annually with the Attorney General's office and have an annual audit. The records are accessible to anyone
a) The register, copies of instruments and the reports filed with the Attorney General, except as provided in subdivision (b) and pursuant to Government Code section 12590, shall be open to public inspection at the Registry of Charitable Trusts in the office of the Attorney General, Sacramento, California, at such reasonable times as the Attorney General may determine. Such inspection shall at all times be subject to thecontrol and supervision of an employee of the Office of the Attorney General

So the idea that the press cannot find out about Archewell is completely false. Anyone can.

Colorado Law does not require any disclosure of donations to the charity or from the charity. Only the registration details. This is all that is supplied to the Attorney General.

The Legislative Assembly found that millions of dollars were fraudulently taken from charities registered in Colorado each year and that fraudulent activity was widespread throughout those charities registered in Colorado.

People can draw their own conclusions as to why Archewell chose to register in this State.

Sorry, maybe I'm being thick.

Archewell is registered in Delaware not Colorado, isn't it?

Maybe its not me that's being thick, of course...

The lawyer who helped with the creation of Archewell is registered in Delaware, although he has links with a Beverley Hills company. The head offices of Archewell are in Beverley Hills. But in any case
Most California charities, as well as foreign charities operating in California, are subject to the jurisdiction of the California Attorney General.

Lathyrus Wed 04-Jan-23 16:59:01

Glorianny said the British press didn’t report n their charitable activities so I did a bit of exploring.

I did discount journalistic articles like the one she quoted because as has been said many times, the media can be bought or controlled.

So I looked for information from State sources and from Archewell itself on what had been donated to and from the Charity and on it’s foundation.

It wasn’t possible to find any monetary figures other than the reported donations for its first year of operation.

Glorianny Wed 04-Jan-23 17:00:41

Lathyrus your internet must be different to mine I could find no link whatsoever with Colorado. Please could you post the link showing the information.

Lathyrus Wed 04-Jan-23 17:01:59

If you can link to any factual information on sums donated to Archewell and sums donated by Archewell, I’d be very interested.

Glorianny Wed 04-Jan-23 17:03:18

I did discount journalistic articles like the one she quoted because as has been said many times, the media can be bought or controlled
That's a pity because the article linked to a number of statements on social media from the charities who have benefitted from donations. Or are you saying they were lying?.

volver Wed 04-Jan-23 17:08:10

I was thinking I might have had to say that Colorado wasn't in California, but that turned out to be redundant. Just for info, Delaware isn't in California either. Or Colorado.

Most people probably know that, though.

Lathyrus Wed 04-Jan-23 17:13:43

The magazine you quoted is a sort of American “Hello”. 🙄

Yes I saw the links.

In my first post on this subject I sad it was impossible to identify the extent Archewell donations because they are made in conjunction with other charities. So “together with X charity Archewell has donated one million…….”

I’m sure they have ensured that everything is done legally.

If not transparently.

volver Wed 04-Jan-23 17:15:42

🤦🏼

Glorianny Wed 04-Jan-23 17:21:21

Lathyrus

The magazine you quoted is a sort of American “Hello”. 🙄

Yes I saw the links.

In my first post on this subject I sad it was impossible to identify the extent Archewell donations because they are made in conjunction with other charities. So “together with X charity Archewell has donated one million…….”

I’m sure they have ensured that everything is done legally.

If not transparently.

Maybe you could take a trip to California Lathyrus visit the offices of the Attorney General and uncover a complete scam, write about it, make your fortune. Your own Archewellgate! grin

What could be more transparent than having your accounts open to public scrutiny? But who knows maybe they are getting cash in plastic bags-like father like son????

AGAA4 Wed 04-Jan-23 17:22:09

This has hit a new low discussing this couple's charities when it seems we don't know much about them.

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