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Estrangement

Support and friendship for those whose lives have been affected by estrangement.

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Smileless2012 Thu 26-Jun-25 10:42:51

So here we are again, another thread for friends we've already made and for those we are yet to meet.

The last few days have been difficult because for as long as some of us have been contributing to the support threads, offensive posts from these 'new' members still not only disrupt, but can hurt too.

'The truth shall set you free' popped into my head over the weekend because these 'new' members/trolls/previously banned posters are not being truthful to us here on this forum or possibly to themselves either.

In order for the truth to free us we have to be honest because honesty and truthfulness can liberate us from all kinds of emotional baggage like guilt and fear and also the impact of deception on our lives.

Guilt often prevents 'admitting' to estrangement in the first place and many live with the fear of permanent estrangement, that estrangement is inevitable or the fear of what a reconciliation my bring.

The impact that the deception from those who lie about us to others is sometimes unquantifiable as is the impact of lying to themselves.

What we share may not always be pretty, it may not always be easy to share or to read but it does help ourselves, one another and who knows how many who read but never post and that I believe is what really matters.

Dotcom Fri 27-Jun-25 12:49:33

Would like to say thank you all so much for being steadfast in your helpful comments of support for those of us who are battling with estrangement.

It’s so reassuring for me to read your everyday ups and downs of everyday life.

Love to read Whiff’s messages and how strong she is with whatever life throws at her.

Smileless, Yogin and Allsorts have been on this journey for many years like myself.

Good wishes to you all.

Smileless2012 Fri 27-Jun-25 12:56:58

Thank you Dotcom smile

I've no idea Whiff. Including the original 'Cut out of their lives' threads, if we average 3 a year that would make 36 threads so 36,000 posts!!!

Glad your toe is getting better. Hope Joey enjoyed his morning walk Yogin.

It's lovely to see so many chatty, upbeat and supportive posts; a great start to the new thread smile x

Allsorts Fri 27-Jun-25 14:21:52

Hello Dotcom, don't see you often but good to see you again. I came on here right at the beginning but was trolled by one person who was really 3 people, in the end, I had enough of the negativity as I look forward, I came off the Forum and travelled a lot, I came back on but changed my name as I knew the person would be back, she was recently, working in the same way, changes her name like the weather. Know she must have have mental issues. Made a couple if good friends on here after all this time who thing a lot like me.
After all this time I am now in a good place, have my downs, just want to have newcomers know that things get easier and they have a safe place here, what they are going though which is hell, they will be better times.

Dotcom Fri 27-Jun-25 16:22:41

Hello Allsorts, I too was a poster on here and it became unpleasant and left.
After a few years found the estrangement topic was still here and rejoined.

Not one to post online really but don’t mind PM conversation.

Smileless2012 Fri 27-Jun-25 17:59:27

It's so good to see you posting again Dotcom, it's awful the way some behave on here, trolling others just because they're estranged parents and driving them away.

They do come back Allsorts but we always spot them and GN are doing a great job getting rid of them again.

Madgran77 Fri 27-Jun-25 22:07:01

Yes GN seems to have got more aware and proactive which is great.

Whiff Sat 28-Jun-25 07:54:01

See that poster is back under a different name about reconnecting with family and getting money back as compensation. Have reported it .

Dotcom glad to see you back . I am a chatterbox in real life and ramble on places I post . Thank you for saying you like my messages but others are going through tough times it's just I am open about what I am going through. I suppose because I feel safe here I can talk about life. If I still had my husband may not do so . My brother says I have verbal diarrhoea but he's cheeky . Think it's got to my typing finger 🤣🤣.

Look forward to reading what you are up to .

Madgran77 Sat 28-Jun-25 07:57:16

Blimey that didn't take long for a return! Good you reported it quickly Whiff. I think it's gone already unless I am missing it.

Yoginimeisje Sat 28-Jun-25 08:20:29

Morning all

Another hot, hot day, so need to get Joey out early again. Read first page of new thread, will read page2 later on today.

Who should I bump into in the park yesterday but... Babs! She is doing well now her DH is back home, her DDs are helping her, hence her walk in the park. Her DH is recovering well at home, the fog is lifting from his brain, I'm sure being at home has done this. Although he told Babs he had had a long conversation with their estranged D, Babs checked his phone and didn't see any such call, so he must have dreamt it. Their house sale/purchase is understandably on hold till Mr.B is better, so probably next year now. She thanks you all for your good wishes & will be back on soon.

Yoginimeisje Sat 28-Jun-25 08:23:20

Thank you Dotcom nice to see your post x

Yoginimeisje Sat 28-Jun-25 08:29:41

Glad to hear your toe is better Whiff, you have enough health probs without your big toe joining in grin.

Thanks Whiff & Smiles re: Joey.

Smiles you must be pleased at finishing off the freshening up of your flat, it's too hot to decorate!

Have a nice day all xx

Smileless2012 Sat 28-Jun-25 08:41:18

Morning everyone.

Said poster started a thread yesterday afternoon Whiff asking why we lose new members and praising the posts she'd made under another name!!!

Thanks to GN for dealing with this so quicklysmile.

Our dogs have had their morning walk Yogin and wont be out again until much later for their second.

It must have been a lovely surprise bumping into Babs, it's great that she's able to get out a bit now DH is gradually improving. Such a shame about the move but of course understandable, things being the way they are.

Bless him, thinking he'd spoken to their estranged D sad it must have been a relief when she realised that hadn't actually happened.

We've got all our jobs here at the flat finished so will be going home tomorrow. We're only about 20 minutes away and really should stay over here for a couple of nights more often.

It's been so long since we did, that I'd forgotten how lovely our little flat is. I always feel immensely proud of Mr. S. when we're here, of all the hard work he did gutting the place and what a fabulous job he did fitting most of the kitchen, decorating and fitting carpets, laminate flooring and blinds; he's a star.

Whiff Sat 28-Jun-25 14:08:47

Yogin so pleased you saw Babs . What a lovely surprise for you .

Mr S is a whizz do you hire him out 🤣.

My daughter is 42 today and they have gone to posh hotel and spa in laws have the boys . Her husband came home from Toronto on the Thursday after going on Sunday .

Nice for them to had some alone time . It was this hot the day I had her and was hot all 11 days I was in. Had to have fans to cool down us mom's and the babies who had bright red faces. 42 years have flown by .

Keep cool everyone. 🥵

Whiff Sat 28-Jun-25 18:44:56

Did write a post but it disappeared. Short story had paramedics here for 2 hours . As my heart rate was high and BP very low for me. 111 sent them . Haven't told my daughter. Will tell tomorrow. She will shout but will point out I had 13 years with no back up.

I have been off my stains since Tuesday but finished antibiotics for my cellulitis today . Can have them again tomorrow. Feeling weepy but I hadn't had these antibiotics before I will put them on my list not to have again .

Milsa Sat 28-Jun-25 18:49:12

My life has been affected. And I forgave them and reconnected for a brief Hello, but never got back again to give them my heart or trust as I used to.

Mati Sat 28-Jun-25 20:00:06

Hi Whiff,

I am sorry to hear you are so unwell. Thanks for your kind words. You are strong and positive. Having a big infection can wear you down. Treat yourself to some pampering by your family.

Milsa, trust has gone. I will never be the same again, now trying to be grateful for the good things in my life.

🌹

Whiff Sat 28-Jun-25 20:02:26

Milsa you are a better person than me. I still love my son but I can never forget or forgive him or my daughter in law.I would never trust him again .. But it's been 5 years since I saw and spoke to him don't expect to see him again .

He called me vindictive and manipulative 2 things I have never been. I had a loving and caring son for 32 years. What hurts me the most is to realise my son is a cruel coward.

I will always love my grandsons as they are innocent in all this . Last time I saw the oldest 2 they were 4&2. They will be 9,7 and their brother who I don't even know his name will be 5.

Allsorts Sun 29-Jun-25 05:22:58

Just reported our troll on another thread on Estrangement.

Madgran77 Sun 29-Jun-25 06:32:37

So have I! Hopefully removed soon. 🙄

DiamondLily Sun 29-Jun-25 06:47:45

And me. Jeez they are so boring and predictable 🙄

Bridie22 Sun 29-Jun-25 07:18:59

And me, they need a new hobby 🤬

Whiff Sun 29-Jun-25 08:10:01

Me too earlier. Should we call ourselves Troll Hunters. Funny enough there is a film called that .

Feeling better back on my statin. If you hear a bomb go off it's me telling my daughter what happened yesterday. She forgets I had 13 years with no back up and I had limb jerks and heart problems then and looked after others. With no medication.

Thankfully moving here means I have both my diagnosis and on medication for my HPX and heart condition.

Put that antibiotic on my list not to have again. But at least my toe is better. Always find a positive from a negative 😁.

Smileless2012 Sun 29-Jun-25 08:51:53

Goodness Whiff shock such a relief to know that the paramedics were with you flowers. You said your DD was away so of course you wouldn't have contacted her.

Milsa and Mati flowers.

Saw two ridiculous threads last night and there's another one this morning. One declaring last night that they're not NiceDream which rather gives it away doesn't it hmm.

Just 'phoned one of our lovely new friends and neighbours to ask her to open all the windows in our lodge so it wont be like walking into an oven.

Take care in this heat everyone; stay safe xx

Bridie22 Sun 29-Jun-25 09:29:00

Take care of yourself Whiff, you are an amazing strong resilient lady, you seem to cope so well! X

Babs03 Sun 29-Jun-25 09:32:51

Just a quick hello to old friends and new.
So thrilled to see yogi the other day and Joey of course. Mr B making baby steps towards his recovery. But small victories are the order of the day. Find it hard to go out unless for a short trip because he can forget why I went and panic, and his eyesight is impaired so if I ring him he can cut the call off rather than replying. But DDs and SILs take turns sitting with him so I do get out now.
Scary moment the other night as yogi said, Mr B said he had been talking to our estranged daughter and despite not having her number anymore I wondered if she had somehow managed to call him, a quick check of his phone record showed he had misremembered this. Phew!. He doesn’t remember much about the estrangement so is really hard, and I am anxious about her returning to exploit his vulnerable state right now. Safeguarding him is our priority.
For years our EAC told people we were dead so I doubt she would show her face now. But it is a worry.
Love to all 🙏🏾❤️