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Do older people need to have global warming explained to them?

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M0nica Sat 22-Apr-23 14:29:38

Today the BBC published an item on their news site entitled
Earth Day: How to talk to your parents about climate change
www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-65339214

in it teenagers explain the concepts of how to lead an environmental life to their parents. The topics covered are: eating less meat, flying less, and avoiding waste in food, shopping and everything else.

Things that have been discussed again and again on GN by many parents old enough to be these teenagers grandparents.

Why does the BBC think that older people are all global warming unaware and do not know or understand that we how to change our lives to meet future challenges?

From my experience we are probably more aware and doing more to reduce energy consumption (too poor, to do anything else but cut back on heating), eat more thoughtfully and generally consume less than most under 30s.

I note on the same day, one of the founders of Extinction Rebellion is seen in a supermarket buying fruit and veg flown in from Africa and Asia and wrapped in plastic and she then drove home in a diesel car.www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11998895/EXCLUSIVE-XR-admit-founder-Gail-Bradbrook-hypocrite-buying-fruit-wrapped-plastic.html?ico=related-replace Other papers had it, but most had pay walls.

Mollygo Sat 22-Apr-23 19:32:06

VioletSky

You only have to look at the amount of rubbish along main roads to see just how many adults aren't aware they are harming the environment

But if an assumption there. Who said it’s only adults dumping the rubbish.

Mollygo Sat 22-Apr-23 19:35:57

V3
Maybe somebody will read it and explain what the difference in tone between The Times and the Mail means. I've lost the will to live. Which might, of course, be the ulterior motive.
Oh . . . It might be the same info but it’s the the tone that counts. Or maybe the nuance🤣🤣🤣

VioletSky Sat 22-Apr-23 19:36:27

Not really Mollygo I'm talking about main roads with verges instead of footpaths

Adults are driving the cars (I hope) and if they aren't aware children are chucking stuff out they need to work on checking their mirrors

Foxygloves Sat 22-Apr-23 19:44:42

Adults - yes, but are we thinking young adults or the demographic on this site? Hmm.
This was at Glastonbury just days after Greta Thunberg enjoyed a rapturous reception hmm

Foxygloves Sat 22-Apr-23 19:45:18

Who says it’s children chucking things out of cars anyway.

Foxygloves Sat 22-Apr-23 19:47:17

You know what, it’s perfectly possible to steer with one hand while flicking a cigarette butt or empty packet out of the window (not that I do it, )but why blame everything on the children in the back?
Or for HGV drivers ?

Witzend Sat 22-Apr-23 19:49:31

Foxygloves

Adults - yes, but are we thinking young adults or the demographic on this site? Hmm.
This was at Glastonbury just days after Greta Thunberg enjoyed a rapturous reception hmm

And weren’t masses of tents just left there, because they couldn’t be bothered to dismantle and take them away?

volver3 Sat 22-Apr-23 19:51:58

Bl**dy young people, lecturing us on saving the planet then leaving their bl**dy tents everywhere....

Its almost as if they all have different values and don't behave like an amorphous blob, isn't it?

VioletSky Sat 22-Apr-23 19:53:18

Exactly

We can't blame rubbish on children when they are learning by example or being supervised by adults lol

Exactly why schools are educating them on these things. I absolutely never see rubbish on our playgrounds at school

Foxygloves Sat 22-Apr-23 20:02:35

And weren’t masses of tents just left there, because they couldn’t be bothered to dismantle and take them away

I believe so, so let’s not point the finger at us grans and our generation!

Foxygloves Sat 22-Apr-23 20:07:43

This is getting ridiculous- litter, plastics in our oceans, disposable single use plastic items everywhere - all have become an increasing problem in our lifetime.
I think all ages are aware and can share the blame but it is the hypocrisy of lecturing the older generation as if we are the only offenders and unaware of the issues at stake.

Foxygloves Sat 22-Apr-23 20:11:45

VioletSky

Exactly

We can't blame rubbish on children when they are learning by example or being supervised by adults lol

Exactly why schools are educating them on these things. I absolutely never see rubbish on our playgrounds at school

Adults are driving the cars (I hope) and if they aren't aware children are chucking stuff out they need to work on checking their mirrors

Your words, VioletSky . -make up your mind!
You absolutely never see rubbish in school playgrounds-really?
We used to have a rota, form by form on litter duty in the playground after the lunch break every day
#maybeneedtogotoSpecsavers ?

VioletSky Sat 22-Apr-23 20:15:41

It is not really a case of finger pointing

We know for a fact that adults are responsible for climate change

Whether or not that is active sabotage or thoughtlessness or not doing as much as is possible to help even when trying

Schools are trying to A. Educate children to be better and B. Teach them how to engage in polite discourse with adults about what they can do to help pr help more

There is no downside

If my children want to tell me all the things I can do to help and some of those things I'm already doing or even all of those things... I'm going to be bloody proud of them

Callistemon21 Sat 22-Apr-23 21:09:03

VioletSky

You only have to look at the amount of rubbish along main roads to see just how many adults aren't aware they are harming the environment

Absolutely, Violetsky

The sad thing is that much of this rubbish is from fast food outlets which are frequented by people with children, judging by the rubbish which a friend regularly litter-picks.

What kind of example are they setting to their children? Ignore what your teacher says about saving the environment?

Callistemon21 Sat 22-Apr-23 21:11:46

Actually, I do think people know about the damage to the environment but they just don't care.

It makes me expletive deleted very cross.

Callistemon21 Sat 22-Apr-23 21:22:56

Foxygloves

This is getting ridiculous- litter, plastics in our oceans, disposable single use plastic items everywhere - all have become an increasing problem in our lifetime.
I think all ages are aware and can share the blame but it is the hypocrisy of lecturing the older generation as if we are the only offenders and unaware of the issues at stake.

I agree with that.

Mollygo Sat 22-Apr-23 21:52:36

VioletSky

Not really Mollygo I'm talking about main roads with verges instead of footpaths

Adults are driving the cars (I hope) and if they aren't aware children are chucking stuff out they need to work on checking their mirrors

But VS, are these the young people who are going to tell adults about saving the planet?
Like I said, children, young people and even older people can say a lot about how to save the planet and reduce the damage done to the environment.
They just don’t associate their actions with the damage.

Oreo Sat 22-Apr-23 22:12:23

volver3

To pick a fight, maybe?

😂
Are you?

Oreo Sat 22-Apr-23 22:13:00

Callistemon21

Foxygloves

This is getting ridiculous- litter, plastics in our oceans, disposable single use plastic items everywhere - all have become an increasing problem in our lifetime.
I think all ages are aware and can share the blame but it is the hypocrisy of lecturing the older generation as if we are the only offenders and unaware of the issues at stake.

I agree with that.

Me too 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

VioletSky Sat 22-Apr-23 22:17:35

It's interesting that people take this as a personal attack of some sort

We are all responsible for the state of the planet and people wanna blame children lol

Callistemon21 Sat 22-Apr-23 22:23:13

Mollygo

VioletSky

Not really Mollygo I'm talking about main roads with verges instead of footpaths

Adults are driving the cars (I hope) and if they aren't aware children are chucking stuff out they need to work on checking their mirrors

But VS, are these the young people who are going to tell adults about saving the planet?
Like I said, children, young people and even older people can say a lot about how to save the planet and reduce the damage done to the environment.
They just don’t associate their actions with the damage.

They don't need a verge! They just need a road wending its way through an AONB which for some reason seems to offend them so much that they have to throw polystyrene containers from fast food outlets and fruit shot bottles into the sides of the road.

It's not just the children, they are copying their irresponsible parents.

VioletSky Sat 22-Apr-23 22:29:52

Well you can't blame schools for trying and let's encourage those children who do care about this stuff please

Callistemon21 Sat 22-Apr-23 22:38:00

VioletSky

Well you can't blame schools for trying and let's encourage those children who do care about this stuff please

No-one could disagree with that.

VioletSky Sat 22-Apr-23 22:39:17

😊

Foxygloves Sat 22-Apr-23 23:24:53

people wanna blame children

“Wanna” ????