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Do older people need to have global warming explained to them?

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M0nica Sat 22-Apr-23 14:29:38

Today the BBC published an item on their news site entitled
Earth Day: How to talk to your parents about climate change
www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-65339214

in it teenagers explain the concepts of how to lead an environmental life to their parents. The topics covered are: eating less meat, flying less, and avoiding waste in food, shopping and everything else.

Things that have been discussed again and again on GN by many parents old enough to be these teenagers grandparents.

Why does the BBC think that older people are all global warming unaware and do not know or understand that we how to change our lives to meet future challenges?

From my experience we are probably more aware and doing more to reduce energy consumption (too poor, to do anything else but cut back on heating), eat more thoughtfully and generally consume less than most under 30s.

I note on the same day, one of the founders of Extinction Rebellion is seen in a supermarket buying fruit and veg flown in from Africa and Asia and wrapped in plastic and she then drove home in a diesel car.www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11998895/EXCLUSIVE-XR-admit-founder-Gail-Bradbrook-hypocrite-buying-fruit-wrapped-plastic.html?ico=related-replace Other papers had it, but most had pay walls.

M0nica Wed 26-Apr-23 08:08:39

So what do you suggest we do LinkyPinky and what are you doing?

volver3 Wed 26-Apr-23 08:28:48

Don't tell them LinkyPinky.

They'll come over all affronted then laugh at you.

Germanshepherdsmum Wed 26-Apr-23 09:12:00

We have a 4x4 because it can cope with what the weather throws at us in the sticks. I also have a powerful sports car for which I apologise to nobody.

Mollygo Wed 26-Apr-23 10:14:37

We decided to have a wind tree in our garden. The saving in electricity would have been amazing, especially as we live at the top of a hill. Mentioning it to our neighbours, the complaints from young and old about the size, the interrupted views and potential damage to their well-being! Do you think we should go ahead?

Germanshepherdsmum Wed 26-Apr-23 10:22:16

I wouldn’t like it either if I was one of your neighbours. Ugly things. Your neighbours would derive no benefit from it, but would have to look at it.

Mollygo Wed 26-Apr-23 10:23:00

I like charity shop buys. I’ve even ventured onto Vinted, but before I come over all virtuous about it, my DD reminded me that if nobody bought the new stuff to start with, business would fold, jobs would be lost, pushing more people into poverty and there’d be nothing in the charity shops or on Vinted to buy.

Mollygo Wed 26-Apr-23 10:32:41

GSM
Exactly why we won’t do it!
I’m not convinced that the potential vibrations wouldn’t damage the house if we had one attached to the roof as was also an option. It was suggested by one of our zealous, what are you doing to save the planet? teenage friends. They haven’t got round to considering the neighbours yet.

volver3 Wed 26-Apr-23 10:34:16

Are you trying to save the planet?

Oh, the neighbours wouldn't like it.

Ah, fair enough...

Callistemon21 Wed 26-Apr-23 10:42:06

nanna8

Including vegetarians in my experience. I like cabbage but not when it has been through someone’s digestive system.

That did make me laugh, nanna8
I was going to cook sprouts for dinner this evening then remembered I have to go to a meeting later.

Back to the serious business.

Mollygo Wed 26-Apr-23 11:01:35

volver3

Are you trying to save the planet?

Oh, the neighbours wouldn't like it.

Ah, fair enough...

So you’d have gone ahead would you V3?
🤣🤣🤣

Callistemon21 Wed 26-Apr-23 11:05:10

If everyone on the planet changes to a vegetarian diet, what would happen to all the animals which are now produced for food?

Presumably they would be freed, allowed to roam and reproduce and therefore produce even more methane?

volver3 Wed 26-Apr-23 11:08:31

Oh not this again...

They'd die out. We'd stop making them. We don't have to keep on artificially creating animals that are not a result of nature.

This argument about "oh will they all run free" is just so ridiculous.

Mollygo Wed 26-Apr-23 11:10:11

volver3

Oh not this again...

They'd die out. We'd stop making them. We don't have to keep on artificially creating animals that are not a result of nature.

This argument about "oh will they all run free" is just so ridiculous.

As are some of your arguments. But do keep posting them. 🤣🤣🤣

volver3 Wed 26-Apr-23 11:22:45

Reported. I've had enough.

Mollygo Wed 26-Apr-23 12:15:30

Me too. I’ll report it as well!

leeds22 Wed 26-Apr-23 12:35:16

I hope none of my GCs try to explain global climate change to me. I might ask them when they are going to refuse to go on long haul flights twice a year (or more) with Mummy and Daddy. They think we are poor/mean because we drive a small car and have down sized to a small house. I could go on....

Callistemon21 Wed 26-Apr-23 12:41:42

volver3

Oh not this again...

They'd die out. We'd stop making them. We don't have to keep on artificially creating animals that are not a result of nature.

This argument about "oh will they all run free" is just so ridiculous.

What is the evidence for the assertion that they would die out?

When previously domesticated animals become feral they may profilerate, not die out.

Callistemon21 Wed 26-Apr-23 12:42:48

We'd stop making them.
I do know about artificial insemination but a feral cow and a feral bull don't need that to reproduce.

volver3 Wed 26-Apr-23 12:46:18

Are you doing this on purpose?

Callistemon21 Wed 26-Apr-23 12:47:06

What?

No, just questioning as the evidence in many cases would seem to prove otherwise.

Callistemon21 Wed 26-Apr-23 12:47:45

volver3

Are you doing this on purpose?

Are you?

lizzypopbottle Wed 26-Apr-23 12:50:53

Surely there'd be mass slaughter of farm animals. They wouldn't be turned out to roam. Or am I being naive?

Callistemon21 Wed 26-Apr-23 12:52:40

Volver - much as you may like to, you do not own the threads so other posters s are entitled to express an opinion without being jumped on or asked if, when they express an alternative viewpoint, Are you doing this on purpose?

volver3 Wed 26-Apr-23 12:58:01

Well Callistemon, I don't want to be made fun of and asked daft questions about things that are obvious to a twelve year old, and take them at face value when they have been discussed at length previously.

We're not all going veggie overnight. We're actually not all going veggie at all. The proportion of veggies in the population will grow gradually and the number of farmed animals we need will decrease in proportion.

So no mass slaughter, no turning cows loose to become feral.

Callistemon21 Wed 26-Apr-23 13:22:22

Oh, thank goodness! What a relief.

No millions of cows on our green and pleasant pastures then, no out of control sheep on our mountains green?

Not like the feral camels in Australia.
Or the sheep terrorising a Welsh town.