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Family heirlooms

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BabsAnn Wed 02-Sep-15 11:49:29

My mother in law left me her wedding ring when she passed away. We had a good relationship and she called me the daughter she never had. So it's not only beautiful but I'm quite sentimental about it. Both my daughters have admired it and I'm wondering how I decide who I leave it to? It seems too special to let it out of the family.

I also have a very ugly chest that she left to me and I just haven't had the heart to get rid of. How do you emotionally separate yourself from this stuff?!

rosesarered Fri 06-Nov-15 22:13:28

Yes, we have a list of wishes ( it's not legally binding) with our wills, but I think most people would honour our wishes.Not going to worry about it though,items will either be wanted or sold or somehow got rid of, but it hardly matters in the great scheme of things.

M0nica Fri 06-Nov-15 21:58:27

I went around the house with my laptop, room by room and listed what was in it and took photographs of the room to cover everything in it and individual photos of some items.

I did it slowly over a couple of months. Once I had the base database adding and subtracting is very easy and if I see items for sale similar to mine I note the price and when and where.

rosequartz Fri 06-Nov-15 19:11:22

You can a attach a 'List of Wishes' to your will; your heirs do not have to stick to it but it could be a guidance.

Reminder to self: must type a 'List of Wishes'

Elegran Fri 06-Nov-15 19:04:12

DD2 has an app that she uses in conjunction with her house and conternts insurance. She can add photographs and descriptions of things. She has been on at me to use it to list the contents of my house and all the stories and references and "provenance" (as the antiques shows call it) I really must get cracking before I am too gaga to get it all down.

M0nica Fri 06-Nov-15 18:40:02

That is the point I am making, many of us have items in our houses that are of deep sentimental value to us and attached to family stories, but stories are best put down in written form and whatever our children may promise us in life, they can do what they like with it after we are gone and we will know nothing about it.

However much we may want to we cannot make our descendents keep things that are precious to us that they have no use for, nowhere to put and will be, as far as they are concerned, millstones around their necks if any attempt is made through wills and the like to force them to keep them.

If you have items of value that that your children may not realise are such, tell them and advise them to get specialist dealers in to value them and recommend how they should be disposed of.

I am fortunate, most of the family have an interest in antiques, well, old stuff anyway, and trade regularly on ebay, so I am pretty sure that DD will make sure that all we possess is kept, sold, where possible; freegled or sent to a charity shop and very little will be tipped.

Anyway, whatever is done with our posessions we have little or no control over what happens once we are dead, and won't know anyway, so why worry?

granjura Fri 06-Nov-15 18:28:14

NotTooOld- yes of course- I need to sort things out and make sure all antique valuable books are put in a special space and discuss with daughters. As they live in UK, we never find the time when they are here and we do so many things, visits, grandkids, etc.

annsixty Fri 06-Nov-15 18:23:53

I am the same NotTooOld absolutely nothing of value in either of our families, I don't think any of my family got engaged before me,they just got married and although I have a nice engagement ring I have very little jewellery apart from that. As for heirlooms.....

NotTooOld Fri 06-Nov-15 18:09:26

granjura - I'm glad I don't have valuables like yours to worry about! Why not donate the valuable books to a university library or your own local library?

NotTooOld Fri 06-Nov-15 18:07:31

I love my DS and DD dearly but I am not blinkered to the fact that they won't want most of our stuff, jewellery or not. I have some jewellery from my mother and some bits of my own which are in their little cases and I have added notes to say who should have what. For instance, my wedding and engagement rings from my ex I want to go to my DiL but my mother's rings are for my DD - she has already had my grandmother's engagement ring. When my mother died we found she had got rid of all her memorabilia except for a thin file of photos and such-like labelled 'memories'. It was sad but we appreciated her thoughtfulness. I'm going to do the same for my children and chuck out the junk rather than leave them to deal with it. I still have my very first pair of nylon stockings, for goodness sake. I doubt the kids would thank me for them!

granjura Fri 06-Nov-15 17:55:59

or worse, in a skip. Some of the books I have for instance, are very rare and precious, and it would be tragic if they were destroyed or burnt.

Elegran Fri 06-Nov-15 17:43:53

We worry because some things are only ours in trust from our parents and grandparents. I have my mother-in-law's mother's wedding china and the silver teapot set she was given when she left teaching to marry, and the Dunfermline-woven linen she received in wedding presents. I am the family genealogist and I have all the old photographs and memorabilia, and the stories that belong to each one. I don't want all of that to go to a charity shop and be dispersed.

M0nica Fri 06-Nov-15 17:27:00

Why worry about what will happen to your belongings after you are gone, you will not be around to know about it?

Unless there is a very good reason to spell everything out - and I do realise that, sadly, that in some families, parent and child or sibling problems make it necessary to say who gets what - just leave it to your descendants to sort it out for themselves.

I suspect mine will get rid of a lot of things I hold dear and cling like leaches to items that I hold of no account but they treasure.

hildajenniJ Fri 06-Nov-15 13:54:57

I have a pendant that came from my great aunt. I never met her as she died the year I was born. It was presented to her for best attendance at school. It is silver with a gold shield, and her initials are engraved on it. She had the same initials as me. (I was named after her). I only have one DD and one DGD so anything of value including the pendant will go to them.

Greyduster Fri 06-Nov-15 11:09:21

I have decided that my jewellery - and there isn't a lot - will go to my daughter, with one piece to my d-i-l that I know will suit her but DD wouldn't wear anyway. DH has very little to leave to our son except his medals, a very good wristwatch and a pair of special gold cuff links that I had made for him on our 40th anniversary. The thing is that I would like my son, in his turn, to pass the cufflinks on to our only grandson - DDs child. DS has no children of his own but he has two stepsons. I would like the links to stay in the family, but is it fair, or reasonable, to ask my son to do this? Once they are his, I suppose he should be able to do what he likes with them.

granjura Fri 06-Nov-15 11:02:35

Much more difficult will be furniture and silver, Limoge plates, baccarat crystal, etc. What on earth will they do with them? The Louis 15th suite my grandmother embroidered in silk and wool with 17C figures? Unless they keep this house as a holiday home- it will just have to go. One of those days, we will just have to have this conversation - or just leave them to it!

M0nica Fri 06-Nov-15 10:27:48

My mother and her sister died within a few months of each other. Neither of them made any advance plans over who should have what after they died.
My sister and I agreed amicably who should have what based on factors like the fact that I was very close to my aunt, who was my godmother and what we wold sell.

I think, if you can be sure your children will not fall out over it, it is easier to let them decide who should have what after one has died.

DMiL died when DC were in early/mid teens and this was their first experience of seeing a home dismantled and its contents redistributed. They told me, years later, that one day the two of them walked round our house deciding what things of ours each of them would lke to keep. I gathered it included a bit of amicable bartering 'If you have that, I want that'. So when we die we are leaving them to sort it out for themselves.

granjura Fri 06-Nov-15 09:25:25

Fortunately, our 2 daughters have already split the magnificent jewellery left to me by my mother that came from her mother. Some I still have, some has already been given. Glad that is sorted.

Grandma2213 Fri 06-Nov-15 02:41:36

I never had an engagement ring and my ex took my (very cheap) wedding ring when he left. However my Aunty gave me my grandmother's engagement and wedding rings when visiting my Mam just before she died. I never knew my grandmother as she died when my mother was very young, but the engagement ring is engraved with her name. It is very old fashioned but I love it as I have never been given anything like that before. I wear both rings for special occasions, including my mother's and Aunt's funerals.

I have one DGS and 4 DGDs so what do I do? Two DGDs have fairly well off other Grandparents and the other two are less well off but have a very difficult mother.

The rings are all I have to leave and I would like to keep them in the family. I am hoping that I last long enough to see which one would appreciate them more.

Wendysue Fri 06-Nov-15 02:09:18

I don't have a lot of expensive stuff either. I'm going to pass my wedding ring onto my oldest GD (a family tradition) when the time is right, but I also intend to select other cherished items to give to my other GC and, of course, my DDs and DS. I don't want anyone to feel as if I favored one over the others.

rosequartz Sat 05-Sep-15 18:38:22

I don't have a lot of expensive stuff.

That's why I still like collecting/being given it!

Stansgran Sat 05-Sep-15 18:02:54

I've already started to pass on my jewellery . It looks much better on the young. Also saved me thinking about what to buy for birthdays. And they pay for the insurance. All round winner.

TerriBull Sat 05-Sep-15 13:38:33

My late mother in law had some expensive diamond rings and other jewellery, which she left to her daughter, my sister in law, who really doesn't like jewellery at all, she might wear silver bits and pieces from somewhere like India, ditto her daughter, so I guess these rocks are languishing in their box somewhere. MIL also had a number of mink coats, which again caused ructions and disapproval from the younger female members of the family, particularly my step daughter, a vegetarian and animal lover who would complain to her grandmother about the animals killed to make her coats to which she would reply "they've been dead a long time darling". When she died there weren't any takers in the family for the fur coats and my husband took them along to some furriers in London, not a lot around these days, who apparently unpick them, re fashion them and sell them on to countries that don't have qualms about wearing animal skins. We did keep her lovely hand made evening dresses, 60s style with lots of beading and the like great vintage stuff in nothing else!

Anniebach Sat 05-Sep-15 12:09:19

I am sure she will be rosequartz

rosequartz Thu 03-Sep-15 18:34:09

Haunting the galleries perhaps! wink

Anniebach Thu 03-Sep-15 15:54:54

Not if jingle is a socialist !