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Irish passport as a Brexit protest

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Grammaretto Mon 23-May-22 18:01:02

Has anyone applied for this and been successful?
I am considering applying. My DGF was Irish.

Chestnut Wed 25-May-22 14:24:02

POBCOB

It’s not all about Brexit but about ancestry and continuing the long Irish heritage that some people have. I was British and Irish from the moment I was born and did not wait for a situation such as Brexit to come along to prove it. Whatever you see as privileges that rightly belong to me will not be surrendered because of the Brexit vote but will continue along my family line hopefully for many generations to come. Not everyone jumped on the Brexit wagon to gain an additional European passport but if they did then they must also have had the right to do so.

What on earth does your passport have to do with your family line or heritage? I speak as a keen family historian! Your passport relates to you as a person and should have nothing to do with your family history.

Li2364 Wed 25-May-22 14:25:44

I applied in Jan last year for Irish Citizenship still waiting think they have backlog

LondonMzFitz Wed 25-May-22 14:27:16

Got mine, both parent born in County Kerry in the 1920's. Both my sisters have expressed an interest but haven't done anything about it yet, I might sort my son out for one.

My application was prompted by Brexit. I haven't used it yet though, got it in September 2017.

inishowen Wed 25-May-22 14:29:03

Hubby was born in Dublin, I was born in Belfast. We are entitled to Irish passports but haven't got round to it yet. Recently we travelled to Spain and the people with Irish passports didn't have the long queue that we brits did.

leeds22 Wed 25-May-22 15:09:53

One of our DILs voted for Brexit and then got her Irish passport, somewhat hypocritic in my view. I have a great GM from Cork, sadly one removed from my getting an EU passport.

Delila Wed 25-May-22 15:14:00

My children & grandchildren have all all done this successfully & it has proved advantageous when any of them travels abroad.

Stella14 Wed 25-May-22 15:15:25

I don’t understand obtaining one as a protest. Brexiters wouldn’t care! Brexit finally galvanised me into organising mine (I’m half Irish on my father’s side). As for posters saying they don’t see the point. There are a number of points. One is that I can sail through the EU channel when travelling in the EU, instead of standing in long queues with a British passport and if ‘little England’ continues to go to hell in a hand basket, I can move to Ireland and after 4-years of living there with an Irish citizen as a wife, my husband would be entitled to apply for his own citizenship.

Petera Wed 25-May-22 15:29:43

leeds22

One of our DILs voted for Brexit and then got her Irish passport, somewhat hypocritic in my view. I have a great GM from Cork, sadly one removed from my getting an EU passport.

There have been a couple of posts like this and of course we can't blame the sins of the children on the parents. But I am curious as to what reason your DiL gave for doing it.

Grammaretto Wed 25-May-22 15:35:08

I would be applying as a way of flying the European flag and if it means shorter queues at pp control, that would be nice too.
I don't care what the stupid Brexiteers think.
I am very glad to read that so many of you have successfully achieved citizenship.
I have another friend whose mother escaped Nazi Germany who would like a European passport. She's finding it very hard though the law has recently changed and it should be automatic. Unfortunately, many if not most, records were destroyed.

alig99 Wed 25-May-22 16:35:13

"21:54Hithere

It would be interesting to know the increase in demand of EU passports after Brexit
How many of those voted for or against brexit."
Well one of that number is Mr Johnson senior who has just gone for a French passport because his mother was French, he of course voted for Brexit, what a two faced xxx!

gillgran Wed 25-May-22 16:48:37

Our Son-in-law got his Irish passport (sometime before Covid/lockdowns).
He travels overseas for his job, & thought it may be useful to have, as well as his British one.

DH & I haven't renewed out British ones, as no longer able/wishing to travel outside UK, these past +10+ years.

Willow68 Wed 25-May-22 18:46:10

So does it matter what part of Ireland grandparent come from?

welbeck Wed 25-May-22 18:49:06

Magrithea

Our younger son lives and works in Ireland and has applied but Covid has slowed everything down! His paternal GF was born in what is now Northern Ireland but before that happened so he qualifies. He is doing it because Brexit might make it difficult for him to carry on working there

it is being born on the island of ireland which qualifies, not whether it was before or after 1922; doesn't matter.
there seems to be some confusion on this point.
a person born today in northern ireland can apply for an irish passport.
everyone born in northern ireland can have 2 passports.

Sago Wed 25-May-22 19:11:14

Willow68 It applies to the whole of Ireland

Sloegin Wed 25-May-22 19:15:33

My husband and I, both born in N.ireland always had British passports but both got Irish ones following Brexit. One of our children and her daughter have got them too and our other children and grandchildren plan to apply for them. Our youngest child and grandchildren were born in England so application slightly more complicated for them. They feel that they may be particularly useful for the grandchildren for ease of travel and educational opportunities in Europe.

SparklyGrandma Wed 25-May-22 19:21:26

Sago I rang up the Cork Register Office and had my grandfathers birth certificate within 2 weeks.

Willow68 Wed 25-May-22 20:20:55

Looking at this now as I had no idea of this. Have I understood correctly, that grandparent had to live in Ireland at my time of birth? My Nan moved to England in her 20’s . She is actually still alive and is now 96 ?

Sago Wed 25-May-22 22:22:58

Willow68 Your parent or grandparent must have been BORN in Ireland before 2005.
If it’s your parent who is Irish you can apply immediately for a passport, if it’s your grandparent you must go on the foreign births register first.
I provided a link earlier in the thread.

paddyann54 Wed 25-May-22 23:45:26

leeds 22 you can have an Irish passport with Irish great grandparents.In fact we're heading for Donegal to try to source my GGP's birth certificates for that reason .I have a whole squad of Irish ancestors so heres hoping

GrauntyHelen Thu 26-May-22 02:16:31

Sadly I'm one generation out of being able to do this My mother could have but didn't if she had I could

Willow68 Thu 26-May-22 06:40:37

Sago

Willow68 Your parent or grandparent must have been BORN in Ireland before 2005.
If it’s your parent who is Irish you can apply immediately for a passport, if it’s your grandparent you must go on the foreign births register first.
I provided a link earlier in the thread.

Thank you , yes I saw the link I just found it a bit confusing, thanks to this thread and your input, I will now look into this… thank you for your replies ?

LinkyPinky Thu 26-May-22 06:58:39

* Well one of that number is Mr Johnson senior who has just gone for a French passport because his mother was French, he of course voted for Brexit, what a two faced *
This is incorrect, alig99. Stanley Jihnson voted Remain.

Petera Thu 26-May-22 07:02:31

LinkyPinky

* Well one of that number is Mr Johnson senior who has just gone for a French passport because his mother was French, he of course voted for Brexit, what a two faced *
This is incorrect, alig99. Stanley Jihnson voted Remain.

True, but in 2017 he publicly stated that he had changed his mind

Sago Thu 26-May-22 09:08:01

PaddyAnne Just double check your eligibility before you spend too much time and money, I don’t think as a great grandchild it’s so easy.

I have cut and pasted the following;

If you or your parent were born on the island of Ireland before 2005, you are an Irish citizen. You can apply for an Irish passport without applying for citizenship.
If your Irish parent was born outside of Ireland, you will need to register via the Foreign Birth Registration.
If one of your grandparents was born in Ireland, but neither of your parents was born in Ireland, you may become an Irish citizen. You’ll need to have your birth registered in the Foreign Births Register.
If one of your great-grandparents was born in Ireland, but none of their descendants were, you can apply for fast-track naturalization after 3 years of residence.

Grammaretto Thu 26-May-22 09:12:50

I am glad I began this thread and feel much more qualified now!
I shall let you know how it goes.

I did not know that a Gt grandparent's birth was also permissible Paddyann. If so my DC would like to know that especially as one works in Ireland. Do you really have to go to the country to access the birth certificate?
I know DGF is in the church register, all in Latin. Civil records began in 1845. I see if I pay £13 for a day pass I can access the records
rootsireland.ie/ifhf/subscribe.php
and can see he is in the index at
www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/