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Step grandparents Royal or otherwise

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Rosiebee Tue 23-Jul-13 09:13:25

I felt really miffed on Camilla's behalf at her being totally sidelined when it came to talking about the new baby's grandparents. Commentators kept talking about the baby as only having one grandmother. Like C I'm in the position of being a 'substitute grandparent', my dear SSon's mother not being around[ Not dead, just bloody minded] My grandchildren -as I do think of them - have known me from birth as being in that position. I wouldn't dream of offering advice to my D in L as I've never had children of my own, but I love them to bits and do everything I would hope a g'parent would do. Camilla has had her own children and grandchildren I'm sure she'll be another loving adult in the baby's eyes. Please don't let us go harking back to Diana and what a wonderful G'parent she would have been.

Aka Tue 23-Jul-13 09:38:10

I agree

j08 Tue 23-Jul-13 09:41:51

I thought she'd been mentioned, along with Charlie. hmm

People are bound to feel a little sad that Diana is not here to see her grandchildren.

j08 Tue 23-Jul-13 09:42:45

Is everyone going to find more ways to feel sorry for themselves out of this?
It's not about us!

merlotgran Tue 23-Jul-13 11:30:09

Someone who won't be feeling sorry for herself this morning is Carole Middleton. Imagine waking up and reminding yourself that you are now the only (biological) grandmother of a future king.

glammanana Tue 23-Jul-13 11:41:06

I wonder if she will be joining us soon or already has crown ?

merlotgran Tue 23-Jul-13 12:00:51

Camilla looks like she has lost a lot of weight and sounds asthmatic.

vampirequeen Tue 23-Jul-13 12:52:21

It's mean the way she's been left out. I know she's not officially related but she's been a big part of William's life for a long time and she will be a granny to the new baby. Grandparent's don't have to be blood relatives to be great grandparents....and some blood relatives are a waste of space.

Tegan Tue 23-Jul-13 13:02:00

Rosiebee; without wishing to offend I think there's a world of difference between Camilla's postion of being the young Prince's grandmother and yours. You deserve the love of your grandchildren but I'll never forget Diana and the role Camilla played in making her life impossible.

vampirequeen Tue 23-Jul-13 13:08:44

So because she was the 'other woman' she's not allowed to be a granny?

vampirequeen Tue 23-Jul-13 13:12:33

Diana and Charles' marriage was doomed from the start. He was already in love with Camilla and she very quickly learned how to manipulate the media. Don't get me wrong I'm not a Charlie fan either but if we're honest they should never have married. Both of them were manipulated into it by their grannies.

Camilla is the baby's granny as much as any blood relative no matter what protocol says.

merlotgran Tue 23-Jul-13 13:45:42

I wouldn't mind betting Camilla is quite happy to be taking a bit of a back seat. She's clever enough to know that if she gets too many mentions the people who blamed her for the break up of Charles and Diana's marriage will have a field day.

She already has grandchildren and is happy for Charles. She gave a very down to earth response to a reporter which is exactly what you'd expect from her.

sunseeker Tue 23-Jul-13 13:53:53

I have no doubt that she will be treated as a grandmother by the family and that is all that matters

vampirequeen Tue 23-Jul-13 14:23:36

She is a very clever lady because she has to walk such a fine line and manages to keep on it.

She will be a granny because Charlie is a granddad. My husband is a granddad to my DGC even though there is no blood link. They call him by his name because they have two other granddads that they see regularly but there is no difference between him and the others as far as the family are concerned.

Riverwalk Tue 23-Jul-13 14:33:43

I'd forgotten about Diana in all this ..... where did the last 30 years go?

Seems like no time since she was exiting St Mary's with Prince William.

Deedaa Tue 23-Jul-13 15:12:22

Camilla seems to have forged a very good relationship with William and Harry and I think she will be a jolly good granny for the new baby. The press may not recognise her but I think she'll have great fun with her new grandson, step or otherwise.

Tegan Tue 23-Jul-13 15:16:06

When my first grandchild was born I felt so sad that his fathers parents hadn't lived to see him [they both died quite young]. I know it sounds morbid but I drove back from the hospital via the churchard where they were buried [I wasn't sure exactly where the grave was] and I seem to remember leaving a flower under one of the trees sad. I think that, at times like that those that are no longer with us seem a lot closer..but then they are, because that child is part of them.

Gorki Tue 23-Jul-13 15:45:54

I think that was a lovely and caring action Tegan.By the time I was born three of my grandparents had died and I only saw the other one three times before she died. I often think about what they and I missed out on . One of my grandfathers was killed in WW1 and he didn't even get to see his own daughter. How they were robbed !

Deedaa Tue 23-Jul-13 22:41:57

That was a lovely thing to do Tegan My father did just live to see his grandson. I've always remembered his smile when I took the baby to hospital to show him. I know we can't go on for ever, but I would have loved my parents to see their great grandchildren. They would have been so thrilled.

nightowl Tue 23-Jul-13 23:00:44

My children didnt have any living grandfathers. My dad died when I was 5 months pregnant. Strangely enough, my mum's dad died when she was 5 months pregnant with me. My mum and I were the same age almost to the day, and at exactly the same stage of pregnancy when our dads died. I would love my parents to have lived long enough to see my children grow up, and it would have been amazing if they could have seen their great grandchild. Im sure that over the next few days William will feel emotional about his mum not being here to see his son. I remember immediately after my son was born one of my first thoughts was that I just wanted my dad back to see him.

Back to the OP - I hope Camilla will feel part of the new baby's life. She seems to be fond of Kate and I'm sure she is a fun granny. Isn't that said to be one of the reasons Camilla kept her own house - so she can have her grandchildren to visit in a less formal setting.

Nelliemoser Wed 24-Jul-13 00:09:04

Tegan There is no good reason why Camilla should be the one to be blamed for Charlie and Di's marital problems. He was in a relationship with her before before he married Di. That marriage was one whole mess from the start. Bad choices at the wrong time.

To point the finger of blame at the woman is a dreadful concept. What should we do to those adulterous woman? Stone them to death as in old testament or Sharia law style. Even to consider that the woman is to blame takes us towards that attitude.

I am sure some GNrs or their children have perhaps walked with their eyes half shut into disastrous liaisons and lived to regret and to leave those relationships. Falling in and out of love happens.

There are circumstances where one party is the main culprit. but marriages can just fail when the couple no longer feel the relationship is of any benefit to either of them.

At last Charles and Camilla seem happy in a relationship and good luck to them.

vampirequeen Wed 24-Jul-13 07:50:52

Charles basically did as he was told when he married Diana. He needed to be seen to marry a virgin of appropriate background who could provide his heirs. He was heavily influenced by his grandmother who had played a major role in upbringing.

Diana was young and naive. She was sold on the fairy tale by her grandmother who again had played a large role in her upbringing. In fact hers even had a fairy tale type story. Young girl ....wicked stepmother....rescued by a prince. Unfortunately they didn't live happily ever after.

Grandmothers were best friends btw.

Tegan Wed 24-Jul-13 17:08:54

I wish I could find the words to explain how it feels to be in a marriage 'with three people' even if that marriage is not a happy one. I know it drove me almost to the point of madness and that's why I felt so much for Diana. I agree that the marriage should never have happened and that they were the wrong people for each other but the way you feel when you are looking after your children and know that your partner is contacting and seeing someone else is unbearable. I still feel that Diana was used like a pawn in a game and that all the people involved were responsible.

vampirequeen Wed 24-Jul-13 17:16:01

I have been in the same situation, Tegan. I don't blame Charles, Diana or Camilla. They were all pawns.

Nonu Wed 24-Jul-13 17:27:52

Instead of dithering about Charles should have married Camilla , before she wed Parker Bowles .