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Hating the inappropriate name

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onlyruth Sun 20-Oct-19 13:48:43

Before I start, it's absolutely down to my daughter and son in law what they call their child. I'm very aware that there are whole areas of being a grandmother where I have to back off and not interfere. But I'm struggling with this more than is sensible and I need to get my head straight.

The name that they're planning on giving their daughter, due soon, I hate. And it's raised some eyebrows when my daughter's been asked by other family members, but again, people have tried to bite their tongue. I'm sorry that I'm not saying what it is, but I'm terrified that if my daughter googled it, that she'd find this post (so please don't speculate and type any guesses in your responses).
The connotations of the name (think stripper/prostitute) are such that I simply can't imagine using it to a tiny innocent baby. People's reaction has been to instantly ask what they'll call her for short - I imagine that like me, they're hoping they won't have to use the full name. But they don't have shortened version that they're considering.

Has anyone else felt this way? Do the connotations disappear once the baby 'becomes' their name? Has anyone actually been brave enough to say 'I think this is going to be a difficult name for your daughter to grow up with'? So far the connotations have been only lightly mentioned to them by another family member, and they've not seen a problem.

It doesn't help that some people, though privately thinking it's weird, have to their face said "oh what a lovely name!"
I suppose I want somebody brave (but not me) to be honest!

Anyway, do I try to bite the bullet and use the whole name, or shorten it myself into my pet name for her?

Tangerine Sun 20-Oct-19 22:43:15

I've guessed it too.

I know a little girl with same name and no-one bats an eyelid. Things could be much worse. I think it will be fine and, anyway, your daughter might change her mind before the baby is born.

Loislovesstewie Mon 21-Oct-19 05:57:30

I thought the name being referred to was Jezebel, particularly as there was a reference to a song and connotations of being a prostitute. The song was by Frankie Laine and 'fallen women' were often called Jezebels. The D name didn't occur to me , but I can't stand Tom Jones so that is likely to be the reason!

NfkDumpling Mon 21-Oct-19 08:18:03

I thought it was Jezabel too! No problems with either really, there are much worse names out there.

kittylester Mon 21-Oct-19 08:29:17

Speaking as someone with a fairly unusual name whose daughter has named two of our grand children with slightly off the wall names, please stop worrying. You will love the baby regardless and forget your worries about her name- I have. And now I cant imagine them being called anything else.

Luckygirl Mon 21-Oct-19 08:36:36

It's fine - the only thing against it is that every time I hear it I can hear TJ yelling his head off!

Nannarose Mon 21-Oct-19 09:19:43

BradfordLass - thank you! My folk music background means I am always changing songs about and singing them to my grandchildren. The 8 year old still calls the version of 'Bonnet Dressed in Blue' that I sang to him 'my song'.
And or family has often had to consider how names will be seen in other cultures, I do know quite a few women named variants on Lala & Leila.

BlueBelle Mon 21-Oct-19 09:26:24

There was a contestant (celebrity) no idea who she was though and her name tag had the last five letters quite pretty

Now onlyruth your headline is HATING THE INAPPROPRIATE NAME do you still think it’s inappropriate and do you still hate it ?

onlyruth Mon 21-Oct-19 10:50:58

Well I'm still not keen on it, but I think I've been reassured that it's not inappropriate! I'm a lot more chilled about it than I was 24 hours ago, as clearly it's just a matter of taste. Lots of people here like it, which makes me happy - and it's gaining in popularity so she won't be the only one around as she grows up.

So all I have to worry about is the oldest generation in my family saying something spectacularly tactless!

LondonGranny Mon 21-Oct-19 11:21:40

onlyruth...have sent you a PM smile

kittylester Mon 21-Oct-19 11:28:40

You can be ready for the older generation's comments. I bet it wont be the first time they will have said something inappropriate.

Alexa Mon 21-Oct-19 11:42:35

Oh is that it! The D name sounds mellifluous. I like it.

NfkDumpling Mon 21-Oct-19 13:02:22

It’ll be shortened to L***a anyway!

Gonegirl Mon 21-Oct-19 13:09:16

It's a terrible name to give to a child and I would tell them so in no uncertain terms.

MissAdventure Mon 21-Oct-19 13:16:27

And what would you expect them to do with that information?

BlueBelle Mon 21-Oct-19 13:17:42

Oh gonegirl what a downer you can’t even be pleasant enough to say not a name you personally like what a harsh post and very unnecessary

Gonegirl Mon 21-Oct-19 13:26:48

Oh well. There you are. I can't see an upside to giving that name to a newborn baby.

And it's common as muck. (not in a 'popularity' way, just common)

MissAdventure Mon 21-Oct-19 13:28:09

hmm

Witzend Mon 21-Oct-19 13:28:11

If it's the name I'm thinking of after your clues, it strikes me that it can be nicely shortened by omitting the first syllable.

Names are such a minefield, though. I really don't like the many now-popular names I associate with the wizened old great aunts of my childhood - e.g. Mabel and Edith. But of course younger parents won't have those connotations. Ditto the old men's names - Stanley and Bertie, etc.

And I know someone whose dd called her baby Otis - I'd have had the most awful job pretending I didn't hate that!

I'm so thankful that dd and SiL picked what I consider lovely names for Gdcs - but they are having no end of trouble finding one they both like enough for no. 3, due in January.

Alexa Mon 21-Oct-19 13:38:27

That's true, Witzend. Two of my relatives chose for their baby daughter the name of the Queen as not embarrassing nor likely to be unfashionable for many decades.

boodymum67 Mon 21-Oct-19 14:09:44

No, you`re not going to influence the name chosen by the new parents. Naming a child is one of the things new parents have sole charge over and they have fun doing so.

As you`ve said, you wont tell us the name, but it got me wondering what others think and associate the following names with?....

Scarlett....the bad woman in Gone With the Wind
Mary.....religion
Mabel...old fashioned and right for a cleaner or skivvy
Beryl....hard and cold
Brenda....a large lady
Pat.....as above
Linda......loose morals
Stacey....poor education
Annabelle.....wealthy
Annastasia.....man eater

What`s your ideas? No offence meant.

Loislovesstewie Mon 21-Oct-19 14:57:22

I don't think Scarlett was bad , she did whatever she had to do to get by . She had been brought up to believe that she would never have to lift a finger to help herself and when her world collapsed she went flat out to make money. I agree that she was selfish but she didn't just sit and whine. I like the name .

Scentia Mon 21-Oct-19 15:17:48

boodymum67

I do not associate any name with any personality.

I think the possible name of the bany in the OP is down to an age thing.
When we tell people my DGS name older people will look confused as it is traditionally a girls name, but younger people will not bat an eyelid.

Callistemon Mon 21-Oct-19 15:28:50

If the name is the one I think it is, apparently it is becoming increasingly popular in the States.
Presumably as people become less religious and that song less well-known (apart from amongst rugby fans) the connotations will be forgotten.

Callistemon Mon 21-Oct-19 15:31:31

Ps I quite like it.
And I know someone my age who is called by the first three letters although I don't think her full name is that one.

BBbevan Mon 21-Oct-19 15:46:28

I like both the J and D names. I knew a child called Salome ( and look what she did!). I don't remember anyone mentioning a biblical reference, ever.