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Hating the inappropriate name

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onlyruth Sun 20-Oct-19 13:48:43

Before I start, it's absolutely down to my daughter and son in law what they call their child. I'm very aware that there are whole areas of being a grandmother where I have to back off and not interfere. But I'm struggling with this more than is sensible and I need to get my head straight.

The name that they're planning on giving their daughter, due soon, I hate. And it's raised some eyebrows when my daughter's been asked by other family members, but again, people have tried to bite their tongue. I'm sorry that I'm not saying what it is, but I'm terrified that if my daughter googled it, that she'd find this post (so please don't speculate and type any guesses in your responses).
The connotations of the name (think stripper/prostitute) are such that I simply can't imagine using it to a tiny innocent baby. People's reaction has been to instantly ask what they'll call her for short - I imagine that like me, they're hoping they won't have to use the full name. But they don't have shortened version that they're considering.

Has anyone else felt this way? Do the connotations disappear once the baby 'becomes' their name? Has anyone actually been brave enough to say 'I think this is going to be a difficult name for your daughter to grow up with'? So far the connotations have been only lightly mentioned to them by another family member, and they've not seen a problem.

It doesn't help that some people, though privately thinking it's weird, have to their face said "oh what a lovely name!"
I suppose I want somebody brave (but not me) to be honest!

Anyway, do I try to bite the bullet and use the whole name, or shorten it myself into my pet name for her?

Gonegirl Mon 21-Oct-19 15:50:42

I think it begins with D. Name that will always have connotations.

DanniRae Mon 21-Oct-19 16:06:10

Stanley was my dad's name so I LOVE IT! My niece called her son Stanley after him and it really suits him smile

GreenGran78 Mon 21-Oct-19 16:12:33

At first I thought that you were referring to a name beginning with J, recorded by Frankie Laine in 1951. I have never met anyone with either name, but think that D would be fairly acceptable. Not sure about the J though.
It’s surprising what you can get used to. My very religious friend was incandescent when her DD called her own daughter Pebbles. She now happily refers to her as ‘Pebs’.

Grandma70s Mon 21-Oct-19 16:15:37

I care a lot about names, and was very nervous before my grandchildren were named. Thank goodness, I like their names. My brother, on the other hand, has two grandchildren with names neither he nor his wife like - in fact my sister-in- law says she cringes every time she says them.

petra Mon 21-Oct-19 16:23:42

My neighbour hates her D name. We all call her Lyla.

Peonyrose Mon 21-Oct-19 16:25:23

Please stop ŵorrying. whatever it is can't be that bad, not to even say , what are you going to be like when the baby arrives. I would be so thrilled about the baby and just want he or she well. It's just a name, it will no doubt be shortened. I can't see parents łanding their own child with some name that it detrimental.

Keeper1 Mon 21-Oct-19 17:02:16

Someone I worked with sister named her son Thor saying it was from Greek mythology I tried to explain it was Norse mythology but she would have it. Anyway poor little chap will be starting school soon......

MissAdventure Mon 21-Oct-19 17:15:32

He'll be fine, along with the Tallulahs, the Chyna-Roses, the Chardonnays..

Sara65 Mon 21-Oct-19 17:21:06

I think all the old names are lovely, I just can’t imagine babies being called names from my era. Maureen, carol, Janet, Colin, Keith, Clive etc

But I’m sure they’ll all come around again.

BlueBelle Mon 21-Oct-19 17:24:05

Don’t forget it could be worse in US you get male or female Randy s ( Randi) now there’s a name that conjures up fun what if it was Randy Trump

My fishmonger was called Stanley

Nannarose Mon 21-Oct-19 17:26:13

I really don't think the issue is about liking the name or not. It's about its connotations in the culture(s) in which the little girl and her family live, work and go to school.

I have been interested to read posts from people to whom neither the Biblical story nor the song are an issue, and those for whom it is one but not the other. I m especially interested that many people think it won't 'ring bells' which I'm sure is reassuring to onlyruth.

And Keeper1, I think that little lad will be the envy of many - Stan Lee based the Marvel Universe on Norse mythology, but the only original name he kept was Thor. The kids will recognise it! They might even know more about Thor's story than his parents!

petra Mon 21-Oct-19 17:27:12

I'm thankful my father didn't get his way: Ethel !!!

Sara65 Mon 21-Oct-19 17:39:45

I’m not keen on the fashion of giving children second names as first names. Recently I’ve known of a Parker, a Robinson, and a a Fletcher.

CraftyGranny Mon 21-Oct-19 23:02:59

Onlyruth, My 3 year old Great Granddaughter has the same name!!!
You will get used to it and love her to bits - I promise.

Lyndiloo Wed 23-Oct-19 02:06:52

A poster on here suggested Lila as a shortened form of 'D'. How lovely is that ...?

Newquay Wed 23-Oct-19 08:55:16

I worked with an Ida-used to think it was an awful old fashioned name but now I only remember that Uda who was fantastic!
A dear friend’s daughter chose a Biblical name-only mentioned once-very unusual but we’re all used to it now.
You’ll LOVE the baby no matter what she’s called.
Our latest DGS is Charlie-well we only think of being “a right Charlie!” but we love him and his name dearly!

Katek Wed 23-Oct-19 09:38:32

My brother was very nearly Torquil until my father put his foot down. He has a very Scottish name (as do we all) but one that’s much more in use than Torquil!

Persistentdonor Wed 23-Oct-19 10:23:40

OnlyRuth If I am on the correct name, the biblical spelling can be different..... perhaps that might be a good compromise?

Persistentdonor Wed 23-Oct-19 10:48:35

And apparently entered the top 100 most popular girls names......

PernillaVanilla Wed 23-Oct-19 12:26:02

The name itself is very pretty and although I suppose commonly known to be biblical I don't suppose many people these days would know the full story. I really don't think it is so outrageous you should even consider not accepting it fully.

The name I don't like being used is "Opal" opals are stones reputed to bring bad luck and it just seems inappropriate.

I post on M.N. too and one thing that crops up in MiL feud threads quite often is how hated a thing it is if the MiL uses an unauthorised nickname for a grandchild. Just embrace it.

Granniesunite Wed 23-Oct-19 15:18:01

If the name begins with a J then you should have a word. Might make no difference to your daughter but you'll know you've tried. I would if it was mine

onlyruth Wed 23-Oct-19 15:28:40

It's not the J one @Granniesunite

Summerlove Wed 23-Oct-19 21:07:16

There was a popular American song with the name about 12 years ago too.

I think it’s pretty

Sarahmob Wed 23-Oct-19 21:17:14

I’ve just seen that Keira Knightly has given her new daughter the D name. I quite like it.

M0nica Wed 23-Oct-19 22:27:03

I am very glad that someone pointed out to my mother that if she gave me the names she planned my initials would be CAT. As a result she changed my middle name.

My DS and wife discussed with us the names they were thinking of and I did comment that perhaps one was prettier than another. They were not bothered by this nor did they choose it.

I think in your situation I would have made some comment, saying some thing like 'You are very brave to use that name' or comment that with that name she could get badly bullied at school, espcially in secondary school.

But it rather depends on your relationship with your daughter.

However, bear in mind that many teenage girls change their names, either changing the spelling or moving to their second name, so by the time your DGD grows up she will probably have decided to change her name to Susan or Gertrude.