Nervous breakdown..

Well guaranteed delivery means nothing. No documents. How am I supposed to tax the new(ish) car. I certainly will not be using this company again.

Yes moved my house is fun. The GKs are my life. You'll be pleased to know that Teddy earned his sticker. I'm not enquiring too closely how that happened

Surely the dealer could have taxed the car under his firm's insurance, Kali? That's what mine did (I paid the cost, of course.)

Possibly Ana it was never discussed because it has never been difficult in the past; I've never had a problem like this before. The insurance has been transferred to the new car but Saga are incapable of supplying me with proof of this for tax purposes. it's not rocket science, I just need the new certificate.

But now it's insured you could tax it online - they get the insurance details automatically, surely? They don't even ask which company you're with.

On second thoughts, though, I'm probably not being helpful as the DVLA may not have registered your ownership yet. Frustrating problem, though!

That's the problem Ana

Thank you Moved this arrived just now. My documents have not yet!

Dear ***

I am sorry to see that you have had such a frustrating experience attempting to access your insurance documents, A member of my team will be in touch this morning to sort this out.

Once again my apologies and thank you for bringing this matter to my attention.

Yours sincerely

Roger Ramsden

Roger Ramsden
Chief Executive, Saga Services Ltd

So - will someone ring? What are the odds on that happening, I wonder! Let us know, Kali.

Will do Ariadne

I'm don't know what guaranteed delivery is. Special delivery used to guarantee arrival before noon the next day, but the time was pushed back to 1.30 several years ago. The person who posts the item can track it; I don't think the intended recipient can, but I'm not sure.

Is there really such a thing as a nervous breakdown or is just a piece of popular usage for a feeling of being unable to cope with the ups and downs of life?

Was it not more of an old-fashioned description of that, absent? I do remember it being used way back, though not so much now.

It's an old-fashioned term I used it in a moment of extreme stress. I think 'Grace* hit the nail on the head with her 'frustration' overload.
My package just arrived "Royal Mail, special delivery, guaranteed by 1pm next day" says the silver sticker, quote. And a giant GD stamped on the front

These days ' a nervous breakdown' is more likely to be called a major depressive episode.
Prolonged stress, anxiety, and frequent panic attacks are often experienced preceding this illness.

I agree, Butty. I couldn't think of a way to describe it. It would very likely entail a stay in hospital.

It is an old term for a very serious illness which people who have no empathy or understanding are inclined to be dismissive about. It is just as serious and unavoidable for those affected as a broken leg, TB, arthritis etc.

So glad to hear you finally got it Kali

In 'those days' that's how it might have been, Movedalot. Hopefully now, correct diagnosis, treatment (and understanding) is available for those people who experience this.

I had a mini - something - about a year ago. DH had some health problems, and I wanted him to have some valium to help him through it. Well, we both wanted this. I was in the Doctor's surgery with him. Whether I was right or wrong is irrelevant, because the Doc said no. I had been going through hell with DH, (nothing violent) and this refusal was the very last straw. I burst into tears right there in the surgery, and the GP seemed to assume I was being abused. Later my husband ranted at me for my 'weakness and stupidity' all the way home in the car, for making it look like I was being abused. As if it had been intentional.

I went into the bedroom and curled up on the bed and considered suicide for a while. Then I realised after an hour or two that there was no help and no sympathy around, because asking for help would just open up a can of worms and cause more bother, so I knew I'd better get back to normal, or at least put on an act.

The whole thing eventually faded, DH sorted himself out, and I got back to coping.

But for a while back there I completely and utterly failed to cope.

Perhaps it was a mini nervous breakdown.

I am not sure whether there is a clinical diagnosis of Nervous Breakdown and even if there was I am not sure whether it would be right.

But I do think there is a time when those of us who are finding it extremely difficult to cope "really can't cope any more"

Marelli I think you are right about the medical profession but am sure that is not the case with the non medics. Things like 'pull yourself together' and 'get over it' are quite common from those who haven't any experience of this illness. I have heard some very cruel comments about people as if they were in some way being self indulgent. Clinical depression is very different from just feeling down for a little while.

That is what I was attempting to get across with my post, definitely not critical of the medical profession on this.

Yes Gilly it is the very strong who keep going and look after everyone else whe eventually succumb to serious depression.

It's usually what is called acute reactive depression

Just about been there, as will some others, gillybob.

Yes that sounds more like it jeni the term Nervous Breakdown conjures up a picture of a frail person shaking like a leaf in a corner.

How right you are Movedalot There is only so much anyone can cope with and we all have our parameters set differently.

The issues of stress, depression, post-traumatic stress, etc are so complicated and differ depending on the personality of the individual, the support system they have, the level of stress, coping skills, etc. But one thing I'm sure of, is that even the strongest of us can cave in if the pressures are great enough. I'm not saying that I was at that stage, but I've had a hell of a lot of practice in recent years of trying to cope with severe trauma.
And that was before I joined GN!!!

To change the subject. Just had a phone call from the office of the CEO at Saga. They acknowledge the awful service and have offered compensation which I am not too proud to accept. It's not what I was after, the apology would have sufficed. Thanks moved for the contact which enabled me to get a resolution.

Kali you are welcome. I would like to add to what you have said that it seems to me it is the strongest rather than the weaker ones who suffer from depression. They keep going much longer than the weaker ones and think they can cope when others would have given in. I have mentioned it before but will do so again for anyone who needs to understand what they are suffering. A wonderful small book by Dr Tim Cantopher 'Depression, the Curse of the Strong'. It helps you to understand how you got in that situation and shows you it is not your fault.