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Doodle Wed 08-Apr-20 22:02:31

Well we have reached another 1000 posts so time for another thread. Welcome.

Anniebach Thu 21-May-20 12:21:46

nonnie the bungalow she has now is her 3rd move, she was living on an estate ,the residents campaigned to have her evicted, same happened again, then they housed her here with
the elderly and disabled. The residents here are doing the same, last year some one from the council gave residents a log
sheet to list anything which causes disturbance or distress, I
can’t do it, they have to rehouse her but the same will happen
again.
There is a council run day place where the elderly and disabled go, they do crafts etc, she is banned from there.

Perhaps I should put it on my list of places to go ? x

Sorry I forgot yesterday, for you after you faced another hurdle - ? x

Doodle Thu 21-May-20 13:10:08

Hello all. why you are certainly moving a long way away. You don’t need to say where but is it somewhere nice where you have been before?
nonnie that is often the way with a relaxing of tension and anxieties creep in. Be kind to yourselves today and rest.
annie joking apart, would you be able to go to the craft place? It might be nice to have some company. Is it like Age Concern?
That poor woman seems to be moving everywhere and causing upset for others without her needs being addressed. I wonder what will happen next.
Have a good day all x

Anniebach Thu 21-May-20 13:25:08

Doodle I would love to go there but it means crossing that
bridge !

Oh no, two police cars again , I am going to ignore it all , will
close the living room curtains , I am ok x

Doodle Thu 21-May-20 15:54:36

What a shame annie. Is there nothing going the other way or does everything involve the bridge?
Surely they can’t carry on like this every day. I wouldn’t have thought the police had time to keep coming round. I wish they could find some help for her and her neighbours.

Joce345 Thu 21-May-20 20:29:15

Annie I never want to her you apologise again.. you are there for us all let us try and be there for you...

Hope everyone’s ok...

Doodle Thu 21-May-20 22:40:04

annie I hope you are ok tonight. Sleep well all x

Anniebach Fri 22-May-20 10:36:48

Hi all x

Yesterday evening the following words came to mind -

‘Change The Thought And You Change The Feeling’

Do try this, start with just one troubling thought, I have been troubled about next door, need I tell you this ? !

If / when police turn up again - ‘help is arriving for her, I can’t
help her but they can.

Nonnie Fri 22-May-20 13:56:30

Crumbs Annie they clearly know how much help she needs, why don't they help her? It makes me very cross, looks like they just pass her on from one place to another and hope the problem will go away. Grrrr

I wish I could follow that advice but can't change my thoughts and I really do try. I seem to have about as much control over my thoughts as I do over my dreams. I admire those who can.

We think we have just finished the latest hurdle, more coming in the next few days. So much love and support from close and wider family. Just had the most lovely card from a niece in which she wrote wonderful things about me being a good friend as well as aunt. I don't think I would cope without all this support. I keep reminding myself how blessed I am. It has to get better............................

Hope you are all managing to get some fresh air and finding fruitful things to do. I'm off to slob on the sofa for the rest of the day and knit for one of my gorgeous dils.

Doodle Fri 22-May-20 13:57:18

annie I see what you mean. It’s certainly an idea. Many people in your shoes would be wishing her ill but you care for her troubles too. You are very kind annie ?

Doodle Fri 22-May-20 14:02:06

nonnie glad you are having support from friends and family. It certainly helps.

Anniebach Fri 22-May-20 15:34:13

I didn’t explain it well did l ?

I was thinking of anxiety disorder, I know changing the thought doesn’t work if there is a major problem causing stress and anxiety .

whywhy has the major problem of waiting to move. I have
the fear of the bridge, but also other fears as do posters who
read this thread but don’t post.

nonnie unless the law changes there is little can be done for
the woman I have spoken of. An alcoholic cannot be sectioned
because they are an alcoholic. Even going into rehab is voluntary, the person can choose to discharge themselves. She
can be prosecuted for causing a disturbance and be fined. If
she seriously harmed someone then a prison sentence.

lavenderzen Fri 22-May-20 20:49:22

Hello everyone

Annie you are very understanding, it must be a real strain having all that erupting next door at any timexx
Hope you are all ok.
I have had a dreadful day and feel close to tears all the time. I went to the supermarket to try and do some shopping, and was told off twice for going the wrong way, and a young man glared at me when I went to the chiller cabinet, I think I was too close to him. I did apologise but I had to leave my trolley and come out without it. It all feels too much for me. I had another birthday this week and feel so old and hopeless I can't even do my own shopping anymore. Sorry to be so miserable.
I hope everyone has a peaceful evening and a good nights sleep. Take care, stay safe, god bless xx

Joce345 Fri 22-May-20 21:36:41

Lavender bless you.. there are three kinds of people out there. The rude and the don’t care ones, then there us.. we can’t all be the same. But there is no excuse for rudeness sound like you seen some of them today. Don’t let it worry you .. don’t let it stop you getting your shopping.. there is help out there for you if you really don’t want to go back...

Annie I find that they don’t help people on drugs do they? I didn’t release that.. I would have thought that was when they needed the most help it’s sad how things are today.. but then they don’t have to live next door to them like you do something wrong somewhere...

Nonnie it’s nice to have good friends there when you most need um..
Doodle hope you are ok..
Wishing you all a goodnight sleep ? stay safe ..
??

Anniebach Fri 22-May-20 21:45:10

lavender belated Happy Birthday Wishes x

If I may ask ? Were you close to tears before you went to the
supermarket ?

As for the supermarket, they strike anxiety into many,many
people off all ages. You went the wrong way twice, bet you were not the only one. My elder granddaughter, age 23 told me she was not going to the supermarket without her partner,
her reason ? ‘I can’t work out 2 metres, I did English and History at university not maths’, why she thinks she needs a degree in maths is rather amusing.

You had the worry of someone living with your daughter being tested, your daughter had a wobble, you were looking
forward to seeing her but it was cancelled. You know she is
being cared for but she is your daughter, you know she is where she needs to be because of health problems but again,
she is your daughter.

It’s not your age my love, you are not a pushy lady , aggressive
people trouble you , sensitivity is something which doesn’t choose age.

You must eat, is there a local shop you can go to ? Does your
supermarket do home delivery? I am not recommending avoidance, just wait until things are calmer.

Did you have your walk today ?

Sending you hugs x

Anniebach Fri 22-May-20 22:01:16

Joyce help for drug addiction and alcoholism has to be asked for, long, long waiting lists, and if they wish the person
with addiction can walk out anytime.

Update on next door - she didn’t call the police yesterday,
neighbours did, she verbally abused a very quiet gentleman
who lives 4 doors from me, neighbours heard her, she accused
the poor man of the most disgusting things, so the neighbours
rang the police and the council. She really is causing stress and
distressed. I was telephoned by my lovely next door but one
neighbour, he asked would I Join them and write a letter. I Explained I had nothing to say because I avoid her by not sitting outside my front door, wrong thing to say, he said
‘Your afraid of her, that shouldn’t be allowed’.

The council are coming to the close next week.

Doodle Fri 22-May-20 22:03:00

lavender sorry you had such an upsetting experience.
I have found if I have something on my mind that upsetting me a bit, the slightest thing can reduce me to tears. Things that wouldn’t normally bother me upset me greatly. I think annie is right. You’ve been through so much recently it was just one thing too many. None of us like being told off and I think it was all too much for you. Happy birthday from me too. Hope you manage to get some food. Take care and I hope you are feeling a bit better tonight ?
joce hope you are ok too.
I think you’re right annie about not being able to section an alcoholic. Unless they are a threat to someone I don’t think the police or anyone can do anything. I hope all is peaceful tonight.
Sleep well all.x

Flutterby1 Fri 22-May-20 22:44:00

Hi all apologies for not sending message for a wee while. I have no real excuse except trying to get through these turbulent times.
Annie I am truly saddened with what you are having to go through with your neighbours health issues. You should not have to carry that burden with you. Having many health issues of your own and you are so full of warmth and kindness for everyone and seems you never ask for anything in return. You find joy in the simple things family, poetry, daffodils etc. I hope you know how well thought of and loved by your friends here.
Nonnie you have and are having challenging times too. I have had you in my prayers. It’s just wonderful that you have so much love and support around you so lean on that.
Lavender that was a dreadful time you had at the supermarket. That was just so unfair. There are lots of good people in the world unfortunately some very nasty ones too. Tears come very easy for many of us at the moment. Be kind to yourself.
Why hope you are doing ok. Hang onto that plan of yours. It will happen.
Joyce I bet Florida seems like it was another lifetime ago. So glad you have these memories.
Doodle how are you doing. You are always so good with the caring you show to Annie.
This is where I apologise for not mentioning everyone by name but I do wish you all well. Stay safe, stay alert, stay indoors - whatever you have been advised to do.
Much love to all. Night night and God Bless xx

Anniebach Sat 23-May-20 11:07:53

Hi all x

lavender this isn’t really appropriate but will risk it !

When I come across bullies and rude people I think

‘What else can you expect from a pig but a grunt’

flutterby hello, yes turbulent times, and at times we are
floundering but -

‘Every day is a fresh beginning,
Listen my soul to the glad refrain,
And spite of old sorrow and older sinning,
And puzzles forecasted and possible pain,
Take heart with the day, and begin again’

Susan Coolridge (‘ What Katie Did’ author )

Nonnie Sat 23-May-20 11:40:14

Annie I was thinking more of help rather than prosecution. She clearly needs it. No one chooses to become an alcoholic.

Lavender so sorry you had such a bad time in the supermarket. You are stronger than many, lots would not have apologised and would have taken umbrage. If I do something wrong or make a mistake I always feel better after I have apologised. I haven't been to one so if I did I would probably get it all wrong and upset people. Happy belated birthday.

Admiration for all of you who remember the details of the lives of us on here. I'm so bad at names I can't remember it all.

Doodle Sat 23-May-20 11:48:53

annie lovely poem ? My how you’ve taken me back with mention of What Katie Did. I had completely forgotten that. Took me straight back to my childhood. I loved to read as a child. My brother used to take me to our local library every week and the joy of browsing and coming home with new books. Trying to be allowed to keep the light on at night so I could finish another chapter. With those few words you have brought back a whole lot of happy memories ?

Doodle Sat 23-May-20 11:50:11

flutterby nice to hear from you. Hope you are getting on ok. ?

Anniebach Sat 23-May-20 12:56:08

Doodle I read all the Katie books, loved going to the library,
still remember the first book I chose when my great aunt took
me to join the children’s section of the library-
Robert Louis Stevenson ‘A Child’s Garden of Verses ‘

Do google his poem’My Shadow’

nonnie help is available for addiction but it’s voluntary,
if it became law that those with addiction could be sectioned
how many rehab centres would be needed, they would be much like prisons. Many homeless people stay on the streets
because they can’t continue with the alcohol/drugs in shelter
accomodation. I agree no one chooses to be an alcoholic.

Doodle Sat 23-May-20 15:32:18

Will do annie. It shows you’ve obviously had a love of poetry from an early age. I too read all the Katie books. I did so love the library as it was then. This quiet space where you could browse. All those rows of books. I do not object to children being in the library as I think it is wonderful to encourage them to read but these days our library houses the council workers meeting with people to discuss their problems which I think should be done in private not at the back of a busy library. Children running round people talking loudly on phones and chatter from other groups. I know its a bit antisocial but I did love the quiet to just browse. Hope you are ok today. I’m off to look up your poem ?

Doodle Sat 23-May-20 15:34:17

Wonderful! ?

lavenderzen Sat 23-May-20 17:11:14

Thank you all for your kind words and support it means a lot xx

Annie your words helped me put things into perspective. I will have to stick with deliveries from now on, I wouldn't be able to go in there again. You have such wisdom and it helps me and many others to see things in the right way.
Your comment about rude people made me smile, very apt for the young man in lycra at the chiller cabinet! smile

Take care, stay safe, have a peaceful evening. Love to all xx

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