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Crikey that escalated quickly

I’m glad that I’m not the only one who noticed that!

None of Harry's lovers have "written books or given interviews" but it doesn't mean it didn't happen.

I am a little bit confused though. Seems that polyamory is smashing but having sex with other people when you are single is bad. I have got things badly back to front in my life.

So Diana wasn’t a virgin when she married, Gilbery use to visit her flat.

I haven't read all this thread, just popped on to see how it's going.
What is your point here,Annie? That if someone visits your flat it's for sex?

nadateturbe My point is, how do people know Camilla has
‘Been around the block a few times’, because the media tells us?
It’s wrong to say this about any woman

Anniebach

nadateturbe My point is, how do people know Camilla has
‘Been around the block a few times’, because the media tells us?
It’s wrong to say this about any woman

I agree.
It's quite a disgraceful comment to make about any woman.

We only know what the media have told us about Camilla and about Diana.

Yes Callistemon we don’t know if Camilla had slept around or if Diana was a virgin. We don’t know if Charles and Camilla fell madly in love when they first dated. The media tells .

Callistemon21

Anniebach

nadateturbe My point is, how do people know Camilla has
‘Been around the block a few times’, because the media tells us?
It’s wrong to say this about any woman

I agree.
It's quite a disgraceful comment to make about any woman.

We only know what the media have told us about Camilla and about Diana.

To be clear, it wasn't nadateturbe who posted that, it was lemsip.

I replied to a question from nadateturbe

Women who've "been round the block" - or "kept themselves 'tidy'"...

It matters in royal circles - but such hypocrisy is nauseating.

Male royals sow their wild oats and they, too, go round the block a few times, but expect and are expected to, marry a virgin.

They can 'sully' as many women as they like - but others have to be confined and saved for their marriages.

It's so archaic - on its own its enough to turn me into a republican.

In the 21st century, if we have to have a monarchy, we should be looking at who will best serve the nation, and who has its best interests at heart, both at home and abroad.

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Why didn’t Charles just marry Camilla in the first place?
The question was tackled in Sally Bedell Smith’s biography, Prince Charles: The Passions and Paradoxes of an Improbable Life. According to Bedell Smith, right from the start Charles adored the then-Camilla Shand, who’s close in age to Charles (Diana was 13 years younger) and has always treated him as an equal rather than as someone she idolized. However, the royal family wasn’t interested in having Camilla as its princess. For one thing, she was perceived as an “experienced” woman, which was a nonstarter for the royal family back then in terms of a suitable spouse for Prince Charles. For another, she wasn’t perceived as “aristocratic” enough to be a princess, according to The Duchess: Camilla Parker Bowles and the Love Affair That Rocked the Crown by Penny Junor.

Fergie lived with a chap before marrying, the media are obsessed with ‘is she a virgin’

Dickens
I think one of the criteria is that the Royal Family needs to make sure that any future heir to the throne is a child of the Monarch or their heirs.
We'd probably have a Plantagenet on the throne had this been ensured several hundred years ago.
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Thanks Annie for clarifying. I totally missed the point. Apologies for misinterpreting.

But this obsession with marrying a virgin was very much in place up to the mid -20th century, when one was warned about the dire consequences of becoming 'that sort of girl'; its importance has subsequently declined, due in large part to vastly improved birth control. It really doesn't seem to matter now, and makes little difference to whether marriages succeed or fail.

Koalama

As a royalist but also a princess Diana fan, I'm struggling, I can't stand to see camilla crowned queen, I don't want to watch, it's making me less of a royalist, I wish he'd just pass it on to William and Kate

... back to the original post. I completely get this. I love the pomp and pageantry, there were several posts on Twitter yesterday showing the bands rehearsals through the streets of Westminster at night, the skirl of bagpipes, just thrilling, and the promise of frocks and flowers for Saturday ...

But - I cannot warm to KC, and I heartily dislike QCC. I dread the close-up's of the pair grinning from my TV, it's making me twitchy just thinking about it.

Yes, it's a Diana thing, she was of my peer group, just a few days older than my now ex-husband.

And a Queen thing - I believe The Queen earned my respect. KC - nope. QCC - absolutely not.

Lots of media trying to whip up excitement, but I think this particular couple, together with the financial crisis so many are experiencing, are hitting an off note for some. Ermine and pearls and foodbanks and strikes, Oh My.

I'm going to be a surly curmudgeon and watch and not enjoy. Well, except for the bands. And the flyover. And the frocks. And I'll probably be really petty and drink a toast to Diana.

I too think it's not acceptable to talk about women in their way. We wouldn't do it with men.

Isn't the whole point that that is how women are still spoken about in connection with the RF? And those standards still apply. Hate to bring her in but the comments made about Meghan and her life before Harry are sometimes much worse. Contrast that with Kate who was always waiting for William and so is greatly approved of.

Megan was in her 30’s divorced and living with someone, Kate
was a teenage university student

Kate was 29 when she married William. Meghan 36 when she married Harry. But as I said one is criticised the other lauded for their different lifestyles. Women involved with the RF are still spoken about in derogatory terms if they don't meet particular standards

Yes you criticised Kate, called her a 1950’s housewife

I said she looked like a 1950s housewife the way she trailed after William. She does. Her smile makes me think of Stepford Wives-it's scary.
No idea about her morals.

Anniebach

Megan was in her 30’s divorced and living with someone, Kate
was a teenage university student

I don't understand the point you are trying to make here.

From what I know, Meghan wasn't living with someone when she met Harry.
In her 30's - Yes.
Divorced - Yes.
Living with someone? They were, as I understand it, both single when they met.

Kate and William were living together at University aged, what, 21? - shared a flat with 2 friends, so press reports say.

You think she shoul push ahead ?