We bought a piece of land 15 years ago to build a house on and the land is edged with other properties one of which is a small holding. The owner used to have ducks, chicken etc but now let's people graze their horses. The fence between, one he put up before we bought the land, is totally inadequate and over the years these horses have broken the flimsy fence and trampled all over our garden. When we inform the neighbour he tells us they are not his horses and it's their responsibility to stop them getting through the fence. I know that's not true, he rents the land to them so he's responsible for the upkeep but trying to get this over to him is impossible. He got his foul mouthed daughter in law involved today who would make Eddie Murphy blush. Her response was, we'll just let them roam for the day. Police don't want to know. It'll be down to us to pay out money to get solicitors involved which I really begrudge. They are a horrible family but the damage the horses do galloping roun costs us time to make right again plus I have young grandchildren who live playing in our large garden but I'm on edge incase these horses get through while they are here and they could get trampled if spooked. Can anyone make any suggestions.
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Neighbours horses keep coming on our property.
(52 Posts)Put up a temporary electric fence and plant hawthorn. It will make a decent hedge in three or four years.
Cheaper than solicitors!
I know it will be costly, but given the circumstances I get the best fencing I could afford, or an electric fence put up. ( probably not have it turned on when GCs around).
You may have to install fencing, but first do some work on getting the horse owners and the field owners to co-operate instead of being obstructive.
Can the horses get out of your garden onto the road if the front gate is open ? You have every right to leave it open at all times if you so wish. It is not up to you to keep it closed for the sake of other people's livestock in the next field, and you have not given permission for them to use your land.
Write to the owner of the field that your land is not secure to livestock. Ask for the names and addresses of the owners of the horses using his field.
Put it in writing. Tell them direct that your land is not secure and you are concerned that when the horses get through into it they are in danger of getting onto a public road and either being injured or killed themselves or causing an accident where someone is injured, or worse. This could be very expensive legally as well as a danger to life. Remind them that in owning an animal they assume responsibility for it and for its actions. They cannot want to risk the safety of their beloved animals, or of motorists who could lose their lives in a crash.
Add that it is not up to you to fence your land against their horses. They should be keeping the horses in, not you keeping them out.
Then get a professional gardener to put right the damage caused in your garden (take photographs before it is fixed) and send the bill to the field owners.
Well, you could do everything Elegran suggests, but that won’t stop the horses in the short or medium term. Or even the long term if they just ignore you. Then you have to get solicitors involved.
I’d just go for the cheapest, easiest solution myself. I’d want a fence anyway to stop the grandchildren going into the horses field!
Please don’t send the horses out onto the road. It might be your son or daughter in the car that serves to avoid them. Or mine.
I haven't had this precise problem but, years ago, a fence for which my neighbour was responsible blew down in the wind. He should have put another one up or paid for one to be put up but he was the type of person who wouldn't do so.
In the end, I had one put up between our gardens even though it wasn't my responsibility. I accept that some people may think I was weak to do this but I didn't want continued unpleasantness from someone who wasn't very nice. I definitely wanted a fence so paid to have one.
Good luck!
He would be thrilled if we paid for and erected a proper fence, something which he should have done years ago with rent he takes off the owners. He's so arrogant I wouldn't give him the satisfaction. The land he rents is almost bald even before the lack of water so of course our garden is a magnet to the horses.
I understand your point. I just thought it might be an idea. I suppose, in my case, the fence wasn't too long.
I do hope you get a solution.
Could you get some strands of wire stretched along your side of the fence line (leave his tatty old stuff up), just going high enough to keep the horses back but not giving him the satisfaction of a proper fence going up at your expense. A few wooden posts, wire and fixers.
Horse and Hounds website has this question answered, if you Google it, it says that the Landowner is responsible, he has a legal liability, should have Insurance and that if it’s happened before then he has to accept liability and pay for any damage, I fear though that you will have to take legal steps on this one.
Have a look at Horse and Hounds website.
PS find out who the horses belong too, and contact them, I’m sure they won’t be pleased to hear that the animals are unsafe in the field.
You can get an electric fencing kit for around £100. Lots of horsey people use them. Very effective.
Electric fencing is fine in the summer when horses have not got rugs on.
bobbydog24 Do not cut your nose off to spite your face. Posts and wire are really cheap at somewhere like Wickes bang a few in stretch the wire between them.
Then here is a link to plants that are poisonous to horses. www.thesprucepets.com/plants-toxic-to-horses-4121978. Plant some in your garden well clear of the fence and tell your neighbour you have done so and that if the horses get into your garden and eat any of them and come to harm, they will have to answer to the owners as the field boundary is their responsibility.
Get the names and addresses of the owners of the horses and warn them as well. I am not advocating poisoning the horses, you could also find plants that look like the poisonous plants and plant those, or not plant any at all but still pretend you have.
MOnica is right - get it sorted and then forget about who is right or wrong. Life's too short.
Oh, I would not plant things that would harm the horses, it's not their fault. But I would def. put a fence up.
I would put a fence up
"do you want to be right or do you want to be happy" is a phrase that I feel applies here... sure, you could let it drag on on principle, but personally I would rather get a fence & get on with my life!
The easiest way would be to wander over and talk to the horse owners when they come to ‘do’ their horses. They won’t want to know that the field - and your garden is NOT secure and their animals WILL end up loose on the road, or that you have plants which ARE poisonous, or that they will be held responsible for any damage. Be nice but firm about it and come from the angle of being worried about their beasts. Let them pressure the field owner.
Its far more practical for them to put an electric fence on their side where the grass is grazed down and for them to replace it. Most horses recognise them and respect just the tape, even when it’s not working - although my hairy beast was quite capable of scooping underneath one at speed when the mood took him.
Yes , the landowner is responsible to maintain good fencing if he is renting the land out for horses. That’s one thing they pay rent for.
A responsible horse owner should always check the perimeter of their turn out field. Try to catch them and have a word when they come to check on and feed the horses.
Please do not knowingly plant anything toxic to horses to deter them that is cruel and barbaric.
FYI I am a horse owner.(a responsible one, as is my daughter)
But you can always say "What if any of the plants in my garden are toxic to the horses? I could have planted them unknowingly."
Be careful if you erect a fence, if a horse injures itself on it, because it was a quick, maybe cheap job, guess who is likely to be held responsible.?
Take a photo of the horses on your garden and send it to Horse and Hound. The letters page might be a good start.
Also, check out your home insurance because you may be covered for legal expenses in a dispute if damage to your property occurs. They will advise as to whether or not to involve the police.
Good point on the insurance Merlot.
Some of the suggestions on this thread are very odd. Why suggest something like poison that will cause more distress, some plants which are poisonous to horses are also toxic to children. It is not worth the risk. The horses owners might expect you to cover their vets bills if you deliberately set out to cause injury.
I would never risk my grandchildren being injured by an animal, why not put up a simple wire fence that will keep them safe from the horses wandering in, does it really matter if your unpleasent neighbour thinks he has won? A spooked horse can mow down a child or person in an instant, I know it has happened to me.
Owing land is a responsibility and it is not unusual to have double fences, one each side of the boundary, I have one here where we have a boundry with NT land, their stone wall can be climbed by visitors, and has been, so I have a barbed wire fence on my side to deter people from using our side.
Did someone suggest planting poisonous plants just in order to harm the horses? I missed that.
A heck of a lot of common garden plants are bad for animals and children. Daffodils for example. But you don’t leave little ones alone in a garden until they know better than to eat the plants. Horses on the other had, like many animals, will feel things with their mouths and have a bit of a nibble on things. They like variety as much as we do. (They don’t like daffs)
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