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When sexism and ageism combine...

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faringdon59 Tue 01-Jun-21 14:42:30

For the last month I have been attending an introductory group lesson to learn golf.
I was obviously the oldest in a group of 8 newbies. One other woman in the group, who I would guess is in her 30's or 40's.
A couple of times the male instructor referred to me as "young lady". I ignored it the first time, but this week he made a point of referring to the other woman by her name and me again as "young lady".
Did a sales pitch about the follow on course, but guess who will be going elsewhere for lessons?
In a supermarket queue last week the man in a suit in front of me was addressed as sir but I was called "lovey" three times during the transaction process. At the end I said thanks "little girl", to which the checkout operator looked stunned!

Alegrias1 Sun 06-Jun-21 19:24:27

Crispee ?

PamSJ1 Sun 06-Jun-21 19:30:05

Chestnut

I would be a bit miffed if someone said 'mind the old lady'.

I was really upset when someone said that about me to a child. I know I use a stick and had a face covering on but I am only 56!

GreyKnitter Sun 06-Jun-21 20:53:04

I really don’t think I can be bothered to upset. There are more important things to be distressed by - life is too short to be fussy about what you’re called as long as it’s not downright rude!

Kiwigramz Sun 06-Jun-21 23:10:49

I would be happy to get a wolf whistle at 76. ?

welbeck Sun 06-Jun-21 23:37:15

Granartisan

A young acquaintance told me I was 'doing well' to be using a computer at 'my age'.

i think i'd be tempted to reply that he/she was doing well to be able to handle a fork and knife all by themselves. how clever !

FarNorth Mon 07-Jun-21 00:07:11

Sometimes, a shop assistant or office clerk will want to suggest me doing something online.
They often start off by saying "Do you have internet, at all?"
I actually don't mind that, as many people of my age don't have internet, or do have it but can barely use it.
I just assure them cheerfully that I'll have no bother doing whatever it is.

GreenGran78 Mon 07-Jun-21 00:18:20

I can tell if someone is being friendly, or patronising, whether they use Madam, Love or any other form of address, and will react accordingly. The actual word used doesn’t bother me at all. I did notice, when I was briefly using a wheelchair, that many shop assistants ignored me and spoke to my ‘pusher’as though my brain had stopped working, along with my legs.

In my local hospital, unlike some that have been mentioned, the staff always ask if they may use your Christian name. In-patients have a note of how they wish to be addressed written over their beds. It’s a good respectful system.

NannaGrandad Thu 10-Jun-21 11:26:05

My husband experiences this when he goes to our local co op. If he's wearing a suit he's called Sir but if he's in jeans and a t.shirt he's called Mate.
I don't really mind what people call me in shops but I do hate Hon or Honey.

Oldwoman70 Sat 12-Jun-21 14:25:43

FarNorth

Oldwoman70 is it only the odd-job man you call 'young man' while you remember the names of all your other staff?
If so, he might be secretly peeved.

Just come back to this thread so sorry for the late reply.
I don't have "staff" - just the odd job man and the gardener and yes I call him "young man" too (but in his case as he is in his 20s as far as I am concerned it is accurate) The odd job man has become a friend and would not hesitate to let me know if he didn't like me calling him that

Whiff Sat 12-Jun-21 14:53:23

If I saw a sign saying take an old bag shopping. I would now it meant to use an old bag. Why would anyone take offence at that. People have become so sensitive to innocent comments. We are breeding a generation who take offence at the slightest thing. Life has become so easy people need to find something to moan about.

They would have something to moan about if they didn't have all the labour saving devices and all the tech.

Unless someone calls me a rude word I really don't care. It's nice just to talk to people.

Alegrias1 Sat 12-Jun-21 15:29:02

Its not about being offended.

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Aveline Sat 12-Jun-21 15:32:56

Yes it is. If people weren't offended by what others say then there wouldn't be trouble.

Alegrias1 Sat 12-Jun-21 15:42:05

Victim blaming.

But thanks for explaining what I think Aveline. I'll just keep quiet now so as not to cause any trouble.

Charleygirl5 Sat 12-Jun-21 15:47:15

I do not like to be called "madam" and the last time I was my reply was that I did not run a brothel.

Aveline Sat 12-Jun-21 16:06:16

When I'm asked how I'd prefer to be addressed I always say Madam and nobody ever takes me at my word sad.
As ever, it ain't what you say it's the way that you say it!

JeanHarmony Tue 22-Jun-21 12:13:44

Hello, I really dont mind any of these expressions of kindness or even affection for the elderly woman. I dont want to be sir. What I really object to is not being seen at all and people making decisions for me. Like Jean can look after the children, Jean will wash up and tidy up, Jean can do this or that. It make you look like a mean person when you dont want to do these things and why should my children assume that I do. Also would like women to feel they can enjoy each other as women and be good company without the assumption that your are gossiping. The labels that are put on you when you get older is really dehumanising. Older women need to find an identity that fits and makes them feel they have a place in society, respected and even loved as being old brings so many gifts. Being called darling, love, sweetheart are generally traditionally kind and I even like it sometimes.

PinkCakes Tue 22-Jun-21 14:37:18

I'm 62, and don't mind being addressed as "love", "dear" etc. When I'm out with others, I don't like being addressed as "guys", nor do I like "girls"