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Has everybody invested their ISA money?.

(112 Posts)
HUNTERF Wed 17-Apr-13 12:33:11

If you have not you are missing out on tax free interest by the day.

Frank

HappyNanna Wed 17-Apr-13 12:43:25

Invested mine on Monday and also for my Mum

janeainsworth Wed 17-Apr-13 13:53:05

Frank this is the third thread you have started adviving us to get our Isas sorted.
Perhaps it's time you got yourself down to the doctor's for a cognitive function test shock

janeainsworth Wed 17-Apr-13 13:53:26

advising even

glammanana Wed 17-Apr-13 14:12:59

How did I know who the op would be ?grin
and yes mine has been done along with mr.g's

soop Wed 17-Apr-13 14:43:35

Frank thanks for the advice. Do you know where I can find the lolly with which to invest as per your instructions, please? wink

HUNTERF Wed 17-Apr-13 17:26:59

soop

You could use some of your pension money.

Frank

soop Wed 17-Apr-13 17:40:55

Frank We're living on our Sate Pension. This is the main reason why our home is on the market. smile

HUNTERF Wed 17-Apr-13 18:10:57

soop

Why did you not save for a private or occupational pension?.

Frank

Elegran Wed 17-Apr-13 18:21:56

Frank Have you really no idea how other people live? You can only save if you have spare money!

If it costs all or most of your earnings to feed and clothe yourself and family and pay your bills, then your savings will be either very small or non-existent, certainly not enough to keep you for years after you retire. That is why the Old Age Pension was introduced.

Many, many people are living on their pension and have tiny or non-existent savings, and it is not always because they have spent their earnings on wine women and song.

absent Wed 17-Apr-13 18:22:07

HUNTERF Isn't that a bit personal?

annodomini Wed 17-Apr-13 18:32:38

That question is sheer impertinence, Frank.

Grannyknot Wed 17-Apr-13 18:34:28

Frank, your question to Soop is a bit of a nerve!

We've had our life savings completely depleted twice - once when our daughter needed medical care (a hip replacement at age 15 and a revision at age 19) that was not covered by private medical insurance (and we weren't living in a country where free health care was provided) and then again we started over at 50 when we fled our home and left South Africa due to soaring levels of crime plus a whole range of other factors including job loss due to affirmative action - we sold our home (investment) at a loss. We were lucky to seel our home, others in our street abandoned their homes. Not that I have to explain to you, but you really do need a reality check.

Grannyknot Wed 17-Apr-13 18:39:17

Anyway ISAs are a joke! The maximum investment level is pathetic, the return even more so (tax free or not), the system is abstruse plus you have to monitor it yourself to make sure they don't change the goalposts. So I wouldn't lose sleep over it if I didn't make the deadline in time (shivering in my well-worn boots).

FlicketyB Wed 17-Apr-13 19:49:23

But ISAs are not limited to cash ISAs. You can invest larger sums, if you are fortunate enough to have them in stocks and shares. We are fortunate enough to be able to do so and nearly all our savings are protected in a wide mixture of individual shares and unit trusts. The returns from these are higher than from cash ISAs and are an important part of our retirement income.

susieb755 Wed 17-Apr-13 20:34:49

If only I had the money to save...

j08 Wed 17-Apr-13 20:42:33

Yes FlicketyB. But stocks can go down as well as up. shock grin

Hope you've got someone who knows their stuff handling it.

Grannyknot Wed 17-Apr-13 21:16:21

j08 you've just reminded me of the money we lost in shares in the dot com crash ... :P

janeainsworth Wed 17-Apr-13 22:51:45

jo8 Yes the value of stocks can go down, but you still get dividends from them, which is usually more than the interest on a cash ISA.
You can minimise risk by investing in a wide range of stocks and shares.

j08 Wed 17-Apr-13 22:57:01

Yes, I do know jane. Ta. wink

harrigran Wed 17-Apr-13 23:57:27

This year's ISA ? I only got round to doing last years a few days before the end of the financial year. With the interest rates so poor It is hardly worth the effort. NS&I please bring back index linked.

Granny23 Thu 18-Apr-13 02:46:31

Frank you should remember that most of us on GN are women and over 60. When we started work it was not considered essential or necessary for women to be included in pension schemes as it was expected that we would marry and be covered thereafter by our husband's savings and pensions. For example - I left school and worked for one of the big high street banks for 3 years as a probationery clerkess.
[I had actually applied for an advertised post as a Bank Apprentice, been interviewed as such and passed the bank's entrance exam, easily beating several male applicants, only to discover 6 months later when I enquired about day release to college for my banking exams that I was actually only a 'probationery clerkess', simply because I was female.]
Then I had a medical and was admitted to the non-contributary pension scheme for just over a year until I married and was immediately classed as temporary (non pensionable) staff. I was also not entitled to a staff mortgage at 4% and we had to find one elswhere at 11and7/8%. Nor did I get bonus payments nor share issues to staff. I continued to work there for another 4 years and indeed earned two 'above salary' increments for increasing responsibilities. When I left to have DD1 I asked about my one year's pension fund and was told it was not worth anything as you had to have at least 3 years continuous employment to qualify - I had worked there for over 8 years!

8 years later, I returned to part-time work, not at the bank who did not employ women with children, but at the local university, where I did not qualify for the pension scheme because I was a part-timer. Later I worked part, then full time in the voluntary sector - no pension schemes there. I was 50 before I started a private pension and only did so because I discovered that self-employed DH's modest private pensions which were intended to keep us both in retirement, would die with him if he failed to live to 65 for one, 70 for the other.

I'm sorry I have written so much but know it is difficult for younger people to grasp the inequalities that existed for women back then (the 60's). That is just part of my own story - suffice to say both of us worked two jobs to put our DD's through Uni and to save a sufficiency for an independent retirement. Our parents lived in Council houses, so no big inheritance for either of us. We thankfully did not have to cope with divorce, disablement, longterm illness, just one redundancy. You have been thrifty and responsible Frank but you have also been VERY lucky, I hope you realise that most others are not so fortunate.

Elegran Thu 18-Apr-13 08:56:58

And, Frank, the story that Granny23 tells is one of the reasons that women who attend exercise classes purely for female members get quite annoyed when men think that they have a right to be there too. They are often the same women who were considered inferior to men for years, and now have something of their own.

sunseeker Thu 18-Apr-13 10:14:14

Very well put Granny23.

soop Thu 18-Apr-13 10:45:31

Thanks Granny23 smile