Has everybody invested their ISA money?.

You keep on posting Move.

I DO SANGUINE nothing better .

Also Move you don"t take any Bull---- .

not quite , weather can"t seem to make up it"s mind

Can a sensible post be made up of one emoticon?

I think Nonu was having a dig at some of the long words being used on here tonight.

The missing part of the word on the next line is ....shit.

What long words? Have checked and can't see any. Mind you, it is 4.15 in the morning...(yawn emoticon)

Surely people just write as they talk, and use the vocabulary they would use in speech?

Goodness me. What a strange outburst.

Me? If so, sorry.

You know quite well Absent meant me!

(I think in this instance "sanguine" was the word in question.)

Just saying.

Of course not Ariadne, nor you j08. How can sanguine be called a long word? It's only two syllables.

Moved is that moral outrage because you have three sons and therefore totally ignorant of the suffering of those of us with daughters? I've offspring of the male & female variety - I guess that must make me a informed, balanced person

There is still a huge gender pay gap, fewer than 50% of women on the boards of FTSE companies, fewer than 50% women MPs and fewer than 50% female members of cabinet. I am sure nobody needs reminding at this time that we have had only one female prime minister. While an exact balance of male and female movers and shakers in all fields is not necessarily the best thing, an approximate balance across the spectrum would represent a massive step forward in equality.

This state of affairs in the twenty-first century is, indeed, a cause for moral outrage.

Elegran

Female only classes are fine if they are not being subsidised out of the council tax which men and women pay.
Also the leisure centre charge men the same monthly membership rate when women had more classes to attend.
I along with other men complained and all classes were then made mixed.
A point a lady did raise when I suggested men should pay less if they were not allowed to use the same number of classes is she should be allowed to take out male membership as she only ever attended mixed classes.
She said she would not support female only classes.
Really I think men should have a refund for the classes they have been unable to attend in the past.

Frank

Another point.
Just before Christmas a few years ago half the classes were cancelled and the ladies class was still running.
It said in the brochure it was a ladies class but it did not say it on the notice board which I read.
A different cashier was on duty that day and a different instructor.
I did the class and a male member of staff stopped me when I was going out and said I had just been in a ladies only class.
Several of the ladies heard what he said and he asked why they had not told me it was a ladies only class.
They laughed and replied that if I had the bottle to walk in to a class of 30 ladies they were not going to stop me.

Frank

HUNTERF, Can I suggest you get a life? please be content with your lot, what has happened in the past cannot be changed, you seem to be so confrontational with absolutely everything, loosen up and live a little, who knows you may feel better.

"get a life" is a horrible saying.

Frank does have a life - it sounds fine to me.

Gransnet would be a duller place without Frank

seems to me Frank was just giving another example of a unfair practice.

For goodness' sake, Frank, stop flogging dead horses. In this thread you have again gone over the story of your house and the issue of women only exercise classes. Please give them a rest - I think we all understand where you're coming from.

I've started a new thread on the saying "get a life" and what it means to me ...

Frank reminds me of an older version of my son. He's got money on the brain. Probably not a fault. (he's very sweet as well.as, no doubt, is Frank)

Why is this one more discussion about the character of a gransnet member (the same one)?

I'll post again what I posted on Friday which seems to have been interpreted as me not understanding how women still suffer:

"soop that reminds me of something I heard recently: "if you can't have what you love, love what you have"

So many women have had difficult lives and had no choice but to put up with it. Young women today will never have to suffer worse treatment just because they are female but we don't keep moaning about it, we just get on with our lives. I could list lots here but I don't expect my problems have been very different from many others.

I strongly dislike this patronising attitude Frank, please try to think what effect your words may have on others."

Now perhaps someone can explain how young women today suffer worse treatement than 40 odd years ago or what having 3 sons has to do with anything?

No, I couldn't understand the reference to your having three sons either Moved and I agree about work and support for women now in comparison to fifty years ago. Obviously the situation is vastly different in some other countries and cultures but here, things are good. I don't believe in a glass ceiling at all, some women just aren't good enough or determined enough to make it to the top - or maybe, when they have children, their priorities change. Not right or wrong, it's human nature.

I am completely opposed to positive discrimination or quotas regarding women. If you're worth it and prepared to be single minded then everything is within reach but I thinking the idea of 'having it all' is a fallacy.