Dutch Election

halfpint1

Even after living in France for a long time I still use British customs with my family and my French grandchildren are being brought up with them.
I imagine any immigrant family does so.

Indulging your native customs and habits is one thing and I'm sure you're right about immigrant families.

But, are you hostile to your host country's culture and laws at the same time?

Probably not!

maddyone

Thank you for outlining the history more comprehensively Dickens.
It seems successive governments were at fault then, not just the Thatcher government.

I agree

And, again, Labour did not tackle the problem. In fact, by Thatcher's final year - her government had built more council housing than Labour did in their 13 years in power, apparently.

Very interesting, Dickens

maddyone

I actually started the thread to ask about why Geert Wilbers has been so much more successful in this election than in previous ones in Holland. I have always thought the Dutch to be a very tolerant race (not sure race is the right word, but you know what I mean.) My experience of Dutch people is that they are generally friendly, tolerant, and accepting of others. So what has happened? I did see a report about farming, and it was claimed the current government are contemplating buying up houses and farms forcibly in order to use the land to achieve a net zero target. Maybe they are wanting to use the land for more wind farms or solar farms. I thought someone on here might know a bit more about that. Whether or not he’s been elected because of high immigration I’m not sure, but again, maybe someone else knows more.

One of the reasons they want to buy up farms is the pollution dense farming creates . Stupidly, years ago they pushed for more farming without realising its consequences to the environment .

They want to shut them down, is what I thought.

Most people realise that fewer farms[I think it is 3000 the EU agreed could be bought and shut down], results in less food.
Let alone the impact to farmers and many other industries/small businesses, relying on farmers.

A lot of people do not agree in compulsory purchase either.

Galaxy

You are I think at least 15 years too late. You have politicians so divorced from what the general public think and I would put the media alongside that. It is quite dangerous when that is the case. I dont know a great deal about the Dutch situation but I imagine its a reflection of what has happened elsewhere. The left and the centre so divorced from the concerns of large sections of the population. I am not having a go at you whitewave, it's just so frustrating.

The higher ups forget the silent majority.
There tends to be enough silent majority nowadays, to skew voter polls.
Many keep quiet, but will say what they are really thinking when they come to vote.

fancythat

They want to shut them down, is what I thought.

Most people realise that fewer farms[I think it is 3000 the EU agreed could be bought and shut down], results in less food.
Let alone the impact to farmers and many other industries/small businesses, relying on farmers.

A lot of people do not agree in compulsory purchase either.

I hadn’t heard of the Dutch wanting to “shut down “ farms, farming certainly does produce its share of pollution but if farms are reduced where is food going to be produced.

The UK has encouraged farmers to take land out of production for environmental reasons, if net zero is to be reached, we still have to eat. If net zero in the UK means we import more food it does nothing for climate change, it adds emissions due to transport cost