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Situation in Israel - we can help.

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Fondasharing Fri 16-Nov-12 18:12:33

As bombs rain down on Gaza, Palestinians and Israelis are on the brink of another cycle of violence and vengeance. But, right now, the Palestinian Authority is preparing a bid to the UN that could be the best chance for peace. Let's help them win it.

While people in southern Israel live in fear of rocket fire, the Gazan people live under siege, imprisoned in a tiny stretch of land. And in the West Bank people are driven from their lands by illegal settlements; their sick get stuck for hours in Israeli checkpoints on the way to hospital; and families are divided by a huge wall that slices through their fields. But if the Palestinians win their UN bid for a state now, it could begin to end the 40 years of occupation, and pave the way for two states, Palestine and Israel, living side by side in peace and security.

The US and Israel are furiously trying to crush the UN vote, and the attack on Gaza may be an attempt to shift attention from the bid and present the Palestinians as untrustworthy partners. But the UK is still on the fence, and EU Foreign Ministers meet in just four days. If we all speak out now, we can persuade the UK government to vote 'yes' for peace and freedom. Click to drown out the blockers with our voices of hope via a massive petition delivered through a 5 storey high flag right outside the ministers' meeting (picture at right):

http://www.avaaz.org/en/palestine_worlds_next_nation_uk/?bCzICdb&v=19243

This is a legitimate, non-violent proposal that would provide Palestinians with a new legal status. And it is the best opportunity to turn the tide on endless US-led talks that do little more than provide cover for the steady illegal colonisation of Palestinian lands by Israeli ‘settlements’. The Palestinian resolution calls for the resumption and acceleration of negotiations. A 'yes' vote would rescue the path to a more balanced and fair peace process between two legitimate states.

While the Israeli and US governments are calling the bid ‘unilateral’ and dangerous, in fact the UN, World Bank and IMF say that the Palestinians are ready to run their own state, if only the occupation would end. And the world’s nations overwhelmingly support this diplomatic move away from violence. Ironically, the US/Israel efforts to overturn this bid and their threats to cut off money to the Palestinians are self-defeating as they boost the power of those who want to do away with Israel as a Jewish state.

Last year the US blocked a Palestinian bid at the UN Security Council. But in the upcoming vote at the UN General Assembly, all nations vote, and this resolution could begin to end the US/Israeli hegemony over this conflict. It can't fully admit Palestine to the UN, but it can declare Palestine a state, with access to a range of international organisations, and give greater international legitimacy to non-violent Palestinian efforts to stop the Israeli military occupation.

jO5 Tue 20-Nov-12 14:33:43

I know merlotgran. It is a hugely difficult situation.

petallus Tue 20-Nov-12 17:55:07

This is a genuine question Merlotgran: how would the Israelis explain the illegal settlements on the West Bank?

merlotgran Tue 20-Nov-12 19:40:16

I suppose it depends which politician is doing the explaining, petallus. They don't regard the settlements as being illegal even though the international community does. I'm sure they have plenty of legal brains to construct their argument.

I'm not siding with the Israelis. I hate what's happening in Gaza just as much as anyone.

jO5 Thu 22-Nov-12 10:36:50

sad picture here of a little boy celebrating what the Palestinians seem to regard as a victory

Why do they have to party, as though they have won? That can't do anything to promote a lasting peace.

jO5 Thu 22-Nov-12 10:37:10

And the blockade hasn't been lifted.

annodomini Tue 04-Dec-12 19:20:56

I am - and I'm sure I'm not the only one - shocked by Israel's blatant defiance and provocation in announcing more settlements in East Jerusalem and the West Bank, immediately following the upgrading of Palestine's status at the UN. I have a message from the Palestine Solidarity Campaign and have, as they suggest, sent an email to the Foreign Office to urge them to recall our ambassador from Israel. Hague has already had their ambassador in for a discussion and it hasn't done any good. But recalling our ambassador would at least make a point. If only this provocation would provoke the US to make a point!

Joan Wed 05-Dec-12 07:32:14

I am deeply saddened by what the Israelis are doing, but we must not lose sight of the fact that Hamas vows the destruction of Israel. Their hatred is deep and unrelenting.

With Netenyahu on the one side, and Hamas on the other, there was never going to be anything approaching an agreement on anything. While Hamas is gaining strength, Israel is going more right wing.

I despair.