selfies

Good article, thanks for the read thatbags.

Actually thatbags I agree with you on this. We don't need raised awareness of cancer it's already 'raised' as who here doesn't either have it, had it in the past or have a family member who has it, or has died from it.It's marketing to make money. Now, you can think this may be a good thing, because it will raise some extra cash for cancer research;or think that it's yet another me me me I wanna be doing this cos everyone else is.
It's some bright sparks idea in the marketing dept.They have tried the sympathy and fear [think of the ads] and the 'here's a free cheap pen' in the post, and this is the next step, appeal to narcissism. It will probably work, to a limited degree.Nobody has to take part of course, although so many people are like sheep and a huge number probably will. The 'selfie'....
it says it all doesn't it? The main distaste that some of us have is the no make up being brave thing, though.Look cancer sufferers, I am like you now! Actually, you are not.

Perfectly put, roses. I've just read some stuff on Twitter and realised that the bad taste is because of the apparent assumption by many people that because something raises money for what they see as a good cause, then that something is a good thing. No, it isn't, at least not necessarily. The end does not justify the means if there is something wrong with the means. There is something wrong with this fundraising if it leads people to think not wearing make-up is somehow remarkable, which is what it seems to be implying.

Some people don't mind that. Some do.

I offer this link if the pinkification of breast cancer bothers you, interests you. It reads just as well for other cancers and it's a welcome diversion for anyone who might feel they have to think 'positive' when given a diagnosis. There are a growing number of stage 4 breast cancer women who are looking for ways of raising the profile of stage 4 without impacting on the pink because cash helps research. We now have a dedicated day in October but blink and you would still miss us.

www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2010/jan/02/cancer-positive-thinking-barbara-ehrenreich

Great book by BE - Smile or Die, with a chapter on the subject.

They even discussed this on the Today programme this morning.

Has the whole world gone onto over-thinking mode?

I don't think they think they are 'brave' in not wearing makeup (was that the idea, if so I missed that bit?), and if it raises money for research I don't really care how they do it. I donated to someone sitting in a bath of baked beans once, so just taking a 'selfie', forwarding it to some friends and making a donation to charity is fine by me.

I am sure many of the young women who are doing this have been affected in some way by family members having cancer.

Yes, jingl overthinking it. But one thing cannot be denied, it's got everyone talking about it. There's no such thing as bad publicity!!

and: www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/no-makeup-selfie-trend-raises-1m-for-cancer-research-uk-in-just-24-hours-9205474.html

It may have its critics but the proof of the pudding as they say

Thank you for the book title JessM I will look into that. I do enjoy B.E.'s articles.

This thread has brought home to me how out of touch I am.
You very rarely see anyone wearing makeup here, I even feel conspicuous at the market in a little lipstick. The idea just wouldn't take off.
But there are groups who raise funds for cancer sufferers and research - I contribute to La Ligue contre le cancer.
But if it does result in more donations, it must be a good thing.

It's a bit of a fun way to raise awareness and money.

My three daughters and (sort of) DiL have done it although none of them wear much make up generally. They all nominated me so I joined in - it would have been churlish not to! I don't wear much make up but I didn't enjoy exposing my totally bare face to the world although people were very nice to me about my photo!

We all donated so that is £15 that we might not have given otherwise. It was a bit of fun!

I thought you meant out of touch re selfies TriciaF, not makeup. Not a lot of makeup worn by middle aged women in my neck of the woods either.
But my Romanian neighbour, who is about 30 I guess, always looks like she is ready to pose for a magazine when she goes off to her office job in the morning.
I was trying to take photos to assess the affect of possible new glasses frames earlier. Bad enough with a bit of make up these days, let alone without.

DS2's partner put her selfie on FB this morning. Her mum has had BC and it also runs in DiL's family so I'm sure she will be contributing.

Thought I would consult the Daily Mail on the subject of make-up.
www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2586102/Bare-really-beautiful-Men-women-attractive-LESS-make-on.html

I think it it great- but nobody should pressurise anyone.

Two of my friends who have had cancer put selfies of themselves without any make-up and any hair- when in the middle of chemo- now THAT is brave- and both looked great. I hardly ever wear make-up though- so it would be no biggie for me.

I wish some people would stop being so precious about this - it is raising money for a good cause and that cannot be a bad thing.

My DD, DIL and their friends all seem to have done it and I'm sure they all had someone in mind when they donated.

Now, if someone could give me a makeover to look good, that would be worth a donation .....

I just used it as an opportunity to donate to the appeal fund for the wonderful Sue Ryder hospice where my daughter spent her last days. Don't care whether that's right or wrong. I look gross with or without make up anyway, so no bravery involved.

dragonfly
rosequartz there will usually be someone on GN who disagrees with you. That's what makes discussions interesting. It's no use wishing that people would think differently from yourself.

Wouldn't think differently

There you have it, Dragonfly. Using marketing in this sphere, whether you agree with how it's presented or if one considers it brave or not, presents an opportunity to contribute to whatever charity that touches you.

Opportunities to contribute with money or otherwise are always there with or without marketing ploys.

dragonfly, for you and your daughter

Not sure what you mean janeainsworth

I was reading about a debate on the Today programme between two young women with very differing views on the subject. Not keen on 'selfies' as such, but if this is raising money for charity it is a different thing altogether and anything that does that is good.

Yes, although I would argue that the opportunities presented through the sphere of social media widens those opportunities and increases awareness.