English Votes for English Laws

Sounds depressing, I was there in an October, sunshine and the hotel made delicious packed lunches for our walks on the moors , weather perfect for walking and photography

The Brontes were all pretty depressed themselves, not surprisingly.

Haworth is interesting but like most places that attract a lot of tourists it is very commercialised. The area around Haworth is stunning. Moors, waterfalls and the KWR for steam engine enthusiasts. Beautiful on a sunny day. Brooding on a stormy winter's day. Picturesque when it snows.

It is beautiful countryside Vampirequeen, I loved it there

Many great writers and poets were/are depressed Elegran , seems a price paid for such immense talent

I came across this, posted by Peter Grant MP.

"SNP MP Kirsty Blackman wrote to the leader of the House of Commons asking which bills in the current parliamentary session would be designated as "England only" or "England and Wales only" under the government's "English votes for English laws". One of the Bills on the list she got back was the Scotland Bill. ‪#‎couldntmakeitup‬

POGS, my parents were married in Bridlington, we used to go to Robin Hood's Bay every year, and I had a charming B&B in York for ten years. I doubt whether you would have stayed in it though, if you had been to York before. It was rather special.

Anniebach had said you might be from Hull but she did not think so. I just agreed with her. People from Hull usually have more empathy than you appear to have.

That's interesting, FarNorth. Perhaps it's a problem of the Tories wanting to rule everything; they do not know where England ends and Scotland begins.

Durhamjen

Thank you for confirming the points I raised in my post 00.03 at every opportunity you can.

I'm sorry you don't think I am capable of empathy.

Did I say that? Read my comment more carefully.

Durhamjen

" Anniebach said you might be from Hull but she did not think so. I just agreed with her. People from Hull usually have more empathy than you appear to have"

You are just taking the rise Durhamjen and spoiling for one of your petty little fights. You will be the 'victim' next, it's what you do.

Have this one on me.

Saying people dont have empathy[I am talking in general, not specifically about anyone in life at all], is the new trick in town.
It sounds good, but on the internet in particular, has no meaning. For a start, if you look across everything they have written, a much more balanced view is obtained. Plus everyone from time to time is going to write something that a handful or several people dont agree with. That is life.
On the internet, as in real life, what a person does, should be looked at as a whole.
An isolated comment, whether right or wrong, is really ridiculous to make a charge of lots of things.

Very true, Soontobe.

The Welsh never get excitable about anything English, what is there to get excited about?

What a childish and spiteful comment.

Not at all Maggiemaybe, it was a response to a post which claimed the opposite

So you actually stand by a statement that there is nothing to get excited about in a whole country?

Any other countries in the world fit the statement, or just boring old England?

Well, there is Alan Rickman

"People from Hull usually have more empathy than you appear to have" does not say you have no empathy. It just says they have more.

You insulted people from Hull.

I really hate Nationalism and its little brother Regionalism - it's petty and dangerous.

The idea that someone who is not from Hull could be lacking in empathy by virtue of not being from Hull is really childish and stupid IMO.

The four arseholes who blew up London 10 years ago today were all YORKSHIRE born and bred.

Strong words Riverwalk - I agree with you, nationalism and regionalism are petty and potentially dangerous.

Some of the discussions on gransnet recently are dire

Well said, Riverwalk

Quite, Iam64. I find myself avoiding certain forums for the sake of my blood pressure.

Actually though, Riverwalk, one of the four arseholes was from Jamaica.

Durhamjen

I did not insult the people from Hull.

Again you make my point for me, you are spoiling for one of your petty little fights.

www.theguardian.com/politics/blog/live/2015/jul/07/consumers-paying-12bn-a-year-too-much-for-energy-competition-watchdog-says-politics-live#block-559bcff0e4b032a39a3baf88

Much more important. There was a vote on it today, which the government lost. Hopefully the first of many votes lost.

An extract from that Guardian report makes clear that, at present, Evel is intended to include legislation that affects more than just England :

"10h ago14:54
Sir Edward Leigh, a Conservative, says the SNP has been good about not voting on England-only matters. If the plans were amended so matters with Barnett consequentials did not count as England-only, would the SNP support them, he asks. He says he is minded to support this idea, because it would strengthen the union.

Wishart says the SNP would be tempted to back that idea."