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White Poppy

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FarNorth Wed 16-Sept-15 10:11:12

Here is an extract from an article on reasons for wearing a white poppy :

"Many of us instead wear a white poppy, the symbol of peace. We do so not because we feel the suffering of those who died or were bereaved any less, everyone agrees that we should commemorate the sacrifice.

But we fear that in remembering the First World War, too many people in government and the military are using the compassion that people feel to justify present and future wars."

stopwar.org.uk/news/why-i-will-wear-a-white-poppy-to-honour-the-dead-on-remembrance-day

Gracesgran Tue 22-Sept-15 14:52:07

Sorry, missed your stars Grumppa

rosequartz Tue 22-Sept-15 17:47:35

self-respecting spin doctor (and I have been one)
I'm intrigued grumppa
I wanna know more!! grin

hicaz46 Wed 23-Sept-15 21:35:44

I'm with farnorth - says it all

durhamjen Sun 04-Oct-15 15:04:19

stopwar.org.uk/resources/white-poppy-2

A direct link to ordering your white poppies if you want to.

nigglynellie Sun 04-Oct-15 15:31:34

No thank you.

durhamjen Sun 04-Oct-15 15:33:02

That's okay, you do not have to.
I'd rather have peace, but never mind.

thatbags Sun 04-Oct-15 16:02:01

I expect we'd all rather have peace.

nigglynellie Sun 04-Oct-15 16:05:12

Ill stick to my red one, it says much more to me than white,but each to their own.

nigglynellie Sun 04-Oct-15 16:14:52

Sorry, I'll, and yes we all want peace that's for sure, wanting Is the easy bit, it's securing it, that's the stumbling block!!!

Ana Sun 04-Oct-15 16:27:22

And choosing a red poppy does not signify that the wearer does not want peace.

thatbags Sun 04-Oct-15 16:28:52

Indeed not. And not wearing any poppy does not mean the non-wearer doesn't want peace either.

thatbags Sun 04-Oct-15 16:29:44

One doesn't have to wear a badge to be sincere about wanting peace, or to prove oneself about anything, actually.

Jane10 Sun 04-Oct-15 16:40:25

Hear hear Thatbags!

Elegran Sun 04-Oct-15 17:24:09

In fact, it is an insult to those who don't wear a white poppy, or any poppy, to assume that they don't want peace.

It is getting a bit like those facebook shares "Like this and share it if you . . . . ." implying that if you don't "like" and "share" it then you are a miserable bugger who doesn't give a shit about the thing the poster is promoting. Or shouting out at the theatre that you believe in fairies, because every time a child says they don't believe, a fairy dies.

durhamjen Sun 04-Oct-15 17:30:43

All I meant is that the centre of the white poppy says peace. But obviously you haven't noticed that. Never mind.

durhamjen Sun 04-Oct-15 17:39:09

stopwar.org.uk/index.php/news/face-to-face-when-british-soldiers-met-ex-members-of-the-ira

Soldiers for peace.

Elegran Sun 04-Oct-15 17:53:30

You were reaping the harvest of the seeds sown earlier, dj, during the debate on white or red poppies. I am glad to hear that you had no intention of implying that anyone didn't prefer peace.

Anniebach Sun 04-Oct-15 17:54:00

I always shout - I believe in faries in the theatre

Wearing a red or white poppy or not wearing a red or white poppy or wearing or not wearing both is the choice of the individual ,

thatbags Sun 04-Oct-15 19:44:34

All I meant is that the centre of the white poppy says peace. But obviously you haven't noticed that. Never mind.

If that's what you meant, why didn't you say that?

Obviously nothing! You do not know what other people notice. Stop saying such stupid things.

rosequartz Sun 04-Oct-15 19:48:56

I DO BELIEVE IN FAIRIES!

The Tooth Fairy (where else do those teeth go?)
Tinkerbell (I saw her once)
And the ones at the bottom of our garden.

I do believe in peace
I will wear a red poppy on Remembrance Day and I will pray for peace.

However, even if I pray very hard I doubt it will happen.
Look at man's history over the millennia.
So all we can do is help to pick up the pieces.

thatbags Sun 04-Oct-15 19:53:49

Reminds me of something we were told as the children of Catholics, rq, which was that if enough people throught the world said enough Hail Marys then there would be peace and goodness in the world. Something like that anyway.

Never going to happen, wishful, fairy world thinking.

The intention is fine. The method... hmm If... then... Aye, right.

thatbags Sun 04-Oct-15 19:54:08

throughout

rosequartz Sun 04-Oct-15 19:56:20

Yes, and the Catholic nuns and Christian Brothers brought a lot of peace and goodness didn't they (another story) sad

durhamjen Sun 04-Oct-15 21:30:48

So had you noticed that the centre of the white poppy said peace, bags - or anyone else who criticised me for saying I'd rather have peace?
I'd rather you didn't call me stupid.
Oh, of course, you didn't, just told me to stop saying such stupid things.
Of course that was only one thing.
How about the rest of the stupid things you are referring to, in your rude way.

thatbags Sun 04-Oct-15 21:35:49

I didn't call you stupid, dj. What I called stupid was the statement containing "obviously hadn't noticed...". I called that stupid because you have no way of knowing what other people notice.