Should we bomb De-ash/ISIS in Syria?

Thanks for the link JessM- letter to MP written. I think it is absolutely ludicrous that we are even considering bombing. Given that someone is buying IS oil, someone is providing them with weapons and we will then be using more weapons to destroy them SOMEONE is benefitting from this.

annie I thought you meant that Corbyn was enjoying every minute of the decision making and dissension in the ranks re the Syria issue, not the whole being leader thing.
I thought it was re that particular issue, that is why I found it worrying.

Stressful, worrying, using every ounce of his persuasive powers - yes - but not 'enjoyable' surely?
Unless he is feeling detached from reality - which is what stress can do in fact.

Of course his name keeps popping up - he is leader of the opposition and crucial to which way the vote goes.
It would be odd if his name did not pop up!

Yes quite jings. Antler waving AKA display of macho power. Understandable yes. Wise and considered, no.

" Britain must do something positive to protect ourselves."

Indeed so. But it must do the wisest thing, not what it is dragged into by others, or is a knee-jerk reaction to an atrocity, or what will engender more radicalization, or will create martyrs, or will kill innocent people to no avail, or will fuel the refugee crisis, or.............

The only way to protect ourselves is to enter into a dialogue with muslim communities here in the UK and around the world and to use enhanced professional intelligence services to pinpoint the ringleaders and bring them to justice (in whatever form is appropriate at the time).

TerriBull has express my view very clearly and coherently, thank you for that. I also agree with Luckygirl, bombs are not the answer....and imagine if we were to spend all the money the bombs are costing us in helping the Syrian population to survive and develop ?

whitewave I just got lucky as I was the first person along to think of it

No. But I don't have an alternative solution and can we, in all conscience, sit back and do nothing?

Lucky girl

The statement you make in your last sentence is happening. There have been so many interviews, discussions, debates on exactly that point , even parliament on a regular basis says the same.

The point is it has not stopped IS from recruiting UK citizens, it has not stopped the 7 thwarted attacks on UK soil from happening, that was down to intelligence and luck , it has not stopped those who are ideologically driven to destroy the UK. At best it will diminish the numbers, the brain washing but it will not protect the UK.

Rosequartz, I listened again to the interview this morning , many questions on Syria all answered calmly and without any mention of enjoying it

Final question from Marr

there is talk about movements against you as leader ,colleagues trying to get legal advise to stop you standing as leader.

And your not going anywhere

Corbyn

I was elected by the members and so I am not going anywhere, I am enjoying it

So you are mistaken to claim the reply was anything to do with the interview on the bombing and security, it was a direct answer to a direct question on him giving up as leader of the Labour Party. You can check on catch up BBC

He actually said 'I'm enjoying every moment of it.'

Get it correct annie

Yes - there's a subtle difference!

Anyone else think these hats look a bit Tweedledee and Tweedledum?

Anniebach. I'm amazed that with all the 'stuff' that you must read that you are unaware that there are named leaders of IS. It wasn't that long ago that one of the women that was 'given' to the leader escaped and told her story.
They are based in Iraq.

True, Petra I thought that everyone on here and interested in world affairs would know that. Any group has leaders, in all cases.

Sorry to have caused you to be amazed Petra, doesn't take much to amaze you though

whitewave, my shorthand is not so good these days , I really must take more care

Gosh some have developed a every word by Corbyn obsession, most unhealthy in my opinion , worrying

Seems even you are not always right rosesarered , don't let it trouble you, it's called being human

Oh, you're such a wit, Anniebach!

Do I detect a note of sarcasm in that comment ?

I could have never remembered the name of old Alibahabha without googling it! By golly! We've got some clever clogs on here!!!

Surely not Tegan, not on this forum

Jingle

Not really clever clogs just interested in understanding the subject to make a comment.

We got rid of Hussain but are still bombing Iraq
I think that statement needs clarification - it is not specific enough.

Rather:
'We got rid of Hussein and are now bombing ISIL in their strongholds in Iraq.'

Of course, because there was no post-Iraq war policy so a vacuum was left which has been filled. Bush and Blair at fault again.

Rosequartz, I listened again to the interview this morning , many questions on Syria all answered calmly and without any mention of enjoying it

I didn't listen to it (although DH had it on in the other room), so I only took your word for it anniebach and misunderstood what you said he was enjoying.
Pax.